RE: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?

[Samuel Richardson]

Just makes sure they understand that   -          The page could be infinitely long (so they don’t box a set amount of text in using a framework around it, common mistake of print designers) -          That they can’t overlap images all over the place and stagger content, it has to align.   If they follow those two rules then it’s very rare they will design something that can’t be built. If they do then it’s your job as the web developer / coder / cut up artist to take it back to them and explain why, then they won’t do it again. If something is going to be quite hard to build, or have to be built in a stupid way then mention it to them as well and explain why it is not a good idea to do it that way.   After a bit of backwards and forwards they’ll soon figure out how to produce great designs. If they’re coming from a print background then the hardest thing for them to understand will be the infinite page length (and possibly width, they may design something that relies on the browser being a certain width, so a bit of education might be needed in that department as well)   Samuel     -----Original Message----- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kay Smoljak Sent: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 4:02 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS resources for Graphic designers?   Hi Susie, On 11/14/06, Susie Gardner-Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In the past (in table-based layout days), the graphic designer on the team would either provide me with a Photoshop layout file that I would cut up, or would sometimes cut it up themselves. I would then build the site using tables, to make it look exactly like the Photoshop layout file.   I know exactly where you're coming from - I also have worked a lot with comp-only web designers. However, I tend to take a different approach. To me, the designer shouldn't be thinking about what can be done in terms of code etc at all - they should look at a computer screen and imagine the possibilities. As coders, it's our job to turn their picture into reality. When we were doing table layouts last century, there were often things that I used to tell the designers not to do - things that were difficult or just plain not possible. But with CSS layouts and good standards-compliant browsers (don't scoff, even IE6 is far easier to deal with than Netscape 4 ever was) I've never come across something a designer has suggested that couldn't be done - just look at the Zen Garden. These days I tell them to just go for it (I also like a challenge). However, giving designers a better understanding of screen-design issues - colour and contrast, size, dimensions and readability, flexible widths, accessibility etc - is of course a great idea. For that I would encourage them to visit the CSS Zen Garden and some of the CSS gallery/awards sites and get ideas of what works and what doesn't from what other people are doing. Sometimes one tiny idea from a way-out "designed for designers" blog layout can add a touch of class to a business site. Good luck with it! K. -- Kay Smoljak business: www.cleverstarfish.com standards: kay.zombiecoder.com coldfusion: kay.smoljak.com personal: goatlady.wordpress.com ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************