Opera is one of the few pieces of commercial software I used on Linux,
but I find I now use Phoenix, the stripped down version of Mozilla. Now
that Flash has been fixed for LTSP I rarely use anything else. I'd also
suggest Sylpheed as a light email client.

John

On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 14:17:45 +0000
Louis Sabet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> I think with my budget as it stands, our sales department don't have much 
> of a choice as to whether they want LTSP or not.
> 
> Essentially there isn't a good enough reason for them to need windows' 
> fancy features, and plenty of good reasons for them to use LTSP.
> 
> Upper management are already on board (of-course they are, I'm saving them 
> money!), so really it's just a case of trying to minimise confusion for my 
> users.
> 
> What I've actually managed to accomplish since my original email is to 
> convince a friend of mine who works in the sales department to just use an 
> etherboot disk every now and again.
> 
> Since he's "linux-curious", he seemed quite happy to give it a go. So 
> hopefully, I should get the receptionist effect here too!
> 
> My setup has changed wildly since my original mail thanks to everyone's 
> replies.
> 
> Windowmanager is now qvwm - I found this to be excellent. It looks like 
> win95, does ALT-TAB perfectly, taskbar works a treat, all the window 
> behaviour is identical to MS, and everything is nicely configurable. Icons 
> are a pain since you have to manually associate them to applications, but 
> we're talking about a small amount of apps here, so it's not too much of a 
> pain.
> 
> I changed browsers from konqueror (which I used to think was great) to 
> Opera - the $30 cost per license is well worth it IMO, since it offers the 
> best combination of useability (something I don't think mozilla ever fully 
> achieved), and an ability to look at 90% of web-pages without getting 
> totally confused. After a while of using konqueror I realised that it 
> really isn't that stable yet (even in kde3), and its interpretation of some 
> web-pages (including our own) is far from acceptable.
> 
> I've stuck with OpenOffice for the time being as it seems relatively fast 
> (I had doubts about its speed, since I always found staroffice to be a bit 
> of a snail), and I'm using mulberry for mail (www.cyrusoft.com) - for those 
> of you that don't know it I urge you to give it a go.
> 
> I'm finally feeling like I can actually roll this out without too much fuss 
> being made, and I'm confident that the users will actually appreciate the 
> change now, as there are some definite improvements over windows.
> 
> Strangely, my LTSP setup seems faster than windows on the local machine - 
> not complaining though!
> 
> Thanks to all,
> 
> L
> 
> 
> --On Friday, January 17, 2003 17:11:10 +0000 John Ingleby 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Dear Louis,
> >
> > I've been working with LTSP (in fact K12LTSP) for nearly a year now, and
> > couldn't resist checking your .co.uk web addresses. It turns out we're
> > less than 10 miles apart!
> >
> > However, I don't have a magic answer to your question. I tend to take
> > the path of least resistance: if it ain't broke don't fix it. In other
> > words, if your sales people don't see good reasons to switch to Linux,
> > maybe the time hasn't quite arrived.
> >
> > Sooner or later, PCs break down, fans wear out, hard disks need
> > replacing, etc. When that happens, and there's no money around, then you
> > stand a better chance of putting your case across.
> >
> > One success story I came across involved switching over just one
> > high-profile user (reception), who told everyone else how easy and
> > reliable her system is. Then it became much easier to get the financial
> > case accepted.
> >
> > Please feel free to get in touch if you need any help, or even just for
> > moral support!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > John Ingleby
> > ************
> > www.coronet.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Louis Sabet - IT Manager
> http://www.mobiles.co.uk
> http://www.gadgets.co.uk
> 
> 
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