XPde`s documentation states that they are making it to make current XP users confortable with Linux migration, after that they may change window managers when they already kow how to use their applications.
Another statement concerns the "My Computer" concept, they will NOT replicate aditional functionality, so there is no need to worry here. What really strikes me, is that the people from KDE and GNOME dont realize that there are admins out there who are NOT installing their window managers because they are too heavy and take up too much memory. Right now I am on qvwm where everything works pretty much OK without needing ages to get from XDM to an usable GUI, so maybe they should claen up their act a little by loading necesary libs and load whatever each program run needs. 8/ --- Jake Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I feel that Bad Things will happen if software like > xpde really catches > on. The Windows XP interface was written around the > Windows XP OS and > concepts, and there are several things that just > don't work the same. > Like the "My Computer" window. Several layers of > extra cruft would need > to be built, and you would end up with a confusing > and bloated > interface. > > Additionally, once users really "get to know" the > Windows-XP-workalike > interface, they will be bound to find some things > that don't work the > same as Windows XP, and then they will think "the > computer is broken". > Like menu items that don't do anything when they're > clicked. No good. > > So, for the love of Pete, find a good Unix-style WM > that is fast, > unbloated, simple, and working. Users will have a > better time of it. > > </rant> > - Jake > > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:04:14PM +0100, Tom > Schouteden wrote: > > True, I installed it an hour ago and it took me > some time to get it > > properly into GDM. It looks like XP (without the > Luna interface) but is > > even worse to work with. Nothing really works, > except the Run menu. > > > > If you want something like XP, get the real thing > (yeah I know, you > > don't want it, but you most certainly don't want > XPde - yet?) > > > > perhaps qvwm is better? > > > > tom > > > > On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 10:25, Louis Sabet wrote: > > > Yeah, I installed it. > > > > > > That's why I said it was far from being stable - > this is personal > > > experience, not gossip :-) > > > > > > It LOOKS just like XP, and the developer has > even bothered to duplicate the > > > Task Manager, even down to processor performance > graphs etc. But that's > > > about all that has been done. > > > > > > All the menus (right-click on desktop, taskbar > etc) all LOOK the same, but > > > clicking on them does nothing. > > > > > > I believe his main aim has been to make > something look like XP, and build > > > in the functionality later. > > > > > > Anyway, after launching a few apps it all dies > horribly... > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > L > > > > > > --On Tuesday, January 21, 2003 09:24:11 -0800 > pedro noticioso > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Has anybody gone past the screenshots by > installing > > > > xpde? 8) > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Louis Sabet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Thanks for the suggestion. > > > >> > > > >> It looks like it could become something quite > nice > > > >> in the future, but I > > > >> installed it to find that it is a 0.1 release > and > > > >> far from being stable. > > > >> > > > >> Might be worth keeping an eye on, assuming MS > > > >> doesn't sue them to high > > > >> heaven... > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> L > > > >> > > > >> --On Friday, January 17, 2003 09:33:44 -0600 > > > >> "Baeseman, Cliff" > > > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > I have never tried this but take a look at > this, > > > >> it should be close > > > >> > enough.... > > > >> > > > > >> > I do not know how mature it is, or even if > it > > > >> works but it does look about > > > >> > as close > > > >> > to xp as one can get. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > http://www.xpde.com/modules.php?name=Screenshots > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Cliff Baeseman > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > From: Louis Sabet > > > >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > Sent: 1/17/03 8:45 AM > > > >> > Subject: [Ltsp-discuss] over my dead > body... > > > >> [slightly OT] > > > >> > > > > >> > Hi all, > > > >> > > > > >> > I work for a small company whose > long-standing > > > >> staff have long adopted > > > >> > an > > > >> > over-my-dead-body attitude towards change. > > > >> > > > > >> > At present our sales department is using > windows > > > >> on a daily basis, and > > > >> > has > > > >> > done so for many many years. Our sales > department > > > >> only use IE, Word, > > > >> > Excel, > > > >> > so having a dedicated machine each running > around > > > >> £400 of software is a > > > >> > little wasteful. > > > >> > > > > >> > LTSP would be a perfect, cost-effective > > > >> replacement for this setup. > > > >> > > > > >> > I have configured the server to my liking > > > >> (i386-RH8, LTSP4), all seems > > > >> > nice > > > >> > and stable, and I have installed OpenOffice > and > > > >> Konqueror (KDE) which is > > > >> > > > > >> > pretty much all they ever need to use. I > have > > > >> already checked whether > > > >> > OpenOffice will open our existing > word/excel > > > >> documents, and it does so > > > >> > quite happily. > > > >> > > > > >> > My problem now is in finding an appropriate > GUI. > > > >> These users are all > > > >> > trained for windows. We have no time for > extensive > > > >> retraining, and so I > > > >> > need to find something as close to the > windows > > > >> look-n-feel as possible, > > > >> > but > > > >> > at the same time making sure that whatever > I > > > >> choose isn't going to be > > > >> > bloated and resource-hungry (KDE/GNOME > etc). > > > >> > > > > >> > I have gone through various GUIs, and none > of them > > > >> really meet the > > > >> > grade. I > > > >> > have tried WindowMaker, BlackBox, Gnome, > KDE, > > > >> FVWM, FVWM95, and finally > > > >> > FluxBox (which is a derivative of > BlackBox), and > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Scholarships for Techies! Can't afford IT training? All 2003 ictp students receive scholarships. 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