Le 30 nov. 06 =E0 15:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a ecrit :

> Dear Anthony and all,
>
> at the moment I do not (becaused at the moment I am playing mainly  
> a ten-course instrument) and when I came to the lute I tried to  
> avoid using the left thumb at all, but: it had worked well for me  
> on folk and rock guitar (early nineteenth-century guitar tutors are  
> said to know this technique, too) and I later learned that Ganassi  
> mentions it. I suspect it works very well in chordal accompaniments  
> (and possibly in a rendering of "Anji" on the six-course lute) but  
> I would avoid it when playing Francesco ...
Thank you Joachim
        But about Francesco, in the painting postulated by some to be of him  
(by Giulio Campi, 1525, Pinacoteca Civica, Como), there he is with  
his thumb "cocked" in the ready position (see http://le.luth.free.fr/ 
renaissance/index.html, look at collumn 4 line 3). I think it may  
have been argued that this could be a protrait of him in Lute  
Festival 2004 Lectures by Mariagrazia Carlone, Portraiture of  
Sixteenth-Century Lutenists, (see  the juxtaposed comparison between  
this and a known portrait at : http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/old/ 
Cleveland2004/Portraits.html#top).
but I may be mistaken, and this may not be his playing position.
All the best
Anthony
> All best,
>
> Joachim
>
>  "Anthony Hind" <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> > Dear All
> >     In Lute News N=B079,  P.25, we  can read that  "The January  
> 2006 (Vol
> > 24, N=B0 05) issue has a paper on the technique of using the left
> > thumb, over the edge of the neck (seen
> >   in some renaissance lute paintings)" and often seen in folk guitar
> > techniques. I suppose the article in question was "All Fingers and
> > Thumbs"  by Yehuda Schryer (that I have not read).
> > The Iconography on a web page run by Jean-Marie Poirier shows this
> > clearly (http://le.luth.free.fr/pouce/index.html). Several  
> members of
> > the French lute list have suggested that this might only have  
> been on
> > relatively narrow-necked 5 to 6 course lutes with a semi-circular
> > section (rather than the later wider flatter necks). It has also  
> been
> > suggested that on the lowest courses the diapason and octave would
> > have been very close together, to assist in this "thumb-blocking".
> >
> > It almost seems as though the neck-shape is intended to fit  ;in  
> to the   ;
> > curve of the hand for this technique.
> > However, I would like to ask if any of you actually hold this  
> type of
> > lute in this way, and whether you adopt this thumb over diapason
> > technique.
> > Anthony
> >
> >
> >
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