You mention about them having other accessibility things than just Voiceover to deal with. I’m curious if anyone on this list happens to therefore use Zoom either on OSX, or on I O S. If so, I don’t have quite enough sight to use it on either, but I’m wondering in general how well it works, and how stable it is in El Capitan? Which oh, my! I just noticed something. In the latest version that just came out, 10.11.1, Alex finally says Capitan correctly. Not really a major thing to be excited about, but still, it is one thing fixed.
That’s awesome! Chris. > On Oct 23, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I agree, Mary, hence why they have their own team of accessibility engineers, > that *have* to work on 4 different operating systems, and work on not just > Voiceover. It makes me sick how many people think VoiceOver is the only > accessibility feature Apple has to work on at all times, so they expect > features to be 100% bug free upon release. Apple will get to the issues when > they get to them, so people just need to be patient, or report them every so > often to get them bumped up in the priority list, or don’t let the door hit > ya where the good lord split ya. > >> On Oct 23, 2015, at 9:21 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Brian, >> I'm not sure what you meant by higher ups. But I wouldn't expect the top >> management at a company like Apple to have much of a clue about details >> regarding accessibility. The real issue is quality control and whether or >> not the people implementing excess ability have a clue. If Tim Cook doesn't >> really understand all that much about how voiceover or assistive touch >> works, that really is good. He doesn't need to know that kind of thing. >> Mary >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 23, 2015, at 6:13 PM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for the heads up will be staying put on Yosemite for good now. >>> Captain and my experience was just awful real big step backwards as far as >>> accessibility. And I am not surprised as I met with someone from Apple >>> yesterday and was stunned to hear that none of the higher ups have a real >>> understanding of accessibility and with the lack of stability in Capitan >>> and VO I am not surprised. >>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> My opinion is that unless you have a specific reason to move to El >>>> Capitan, staying put will give you the better experience. At this stage >>>> I’d say the El Capitan experience is merely tolerable, but not great. >>>> Responsiveness is a definite plus, and I have come to endure iBooks for >>>> sheer lack of choice and find that I’m glad not to have to remove it every >>>> time I update. But other than that, it’s a bit meh, really. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
