That's not "True" as (I Beleive) Google does
Manufacture its Own (the Nexus) & Microsoft does with (Surface & Lumia & XBox)
Their TTS offerings may not be ToTheStandard of
Apple's TTS (VoiceOver), but they are steadily
making improvements along the road
On the OtherHand, Apple "appears" to be slipping
InThisArea EvenThough they offer
additionalFeatures, previous features are "slipping" in my view
I don't recall many VoiceOver "Bugs&Flaws" with
the release of iOS3-iOS4-etc., but with the
Release of iOS8&Beyond many VoiceOver "Bugs&Flaws" are steadily surfacing
Apple made "sure" NonVoiceOver "Bugs&Flaws were
not "present" IN iOS9's Release because they
couldn't handle the PR (PublicRelations) if it
weren't, but they could handle VoiceOver's Bugs&Flaws
JustSayihng
At 10:29 AM 10/24/2015, you wrote:
"Google does not do it. Microsoft is a
laugh. And the screen reader vendors are little."
This is because none of them build both the
hardware and the software. Apple does both and
quite well. Does that put them on an even
higher level of responsibility? No. But we as
the user who requires accessibility have the
responsibility to keep Apple apprised of issues
that impacts that accessibility. It does little
good to pick them apart if we are not reporting bugs.
And if we are reporting the bugs then might
we not be far better to work together to seek
work arounds until such a time when the bugs
are squashed rather than engage in these endless circular bitchfests?
I know nothing of what it takes to run a
large corporation like Apple. But surely they
have hundreds of departments, thousands of
employees, most who do not have a clue what
goes on next door. If any of you want to make
changes, hire on as a liaison and good luck.
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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 10/24/2015 10:09 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
For when ever it may be worth, I absolutely
agree with you about the necessity for those
with power and Apple to recognize the extreme
importance of keeping your commitment regarding
the quality of excess ability. I only meant
that I didn't think they should have to know
about all the inns and outs. But they need to
do is ensure that the final product does what
it should do. And the way they do that is by
hiring and holding accountable people who know
what they're doing. I think the jury still is
out on whether they can do that. Google
certainly doesn't do it. Microsoft, there's a
laugh. The problem with the little screen
reader vendors is that there well little. So
they can't do it either. No model is perfect
alas. The big companies should be able to do
it. They have the resources. Do they have the will?
Mary
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On Oct 23, 2015, at 11:28 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> wrote:
I don’t agree that executives shouldn’t
know about accessibility. They may not know
the details, but they ought to understand the
urgency and importance. Steve Jobs was once
the CEO of Apple and he demoed the latest
products for his admiring audience; he
didn’t palm the job off to his
engineers. If Steve Jobs could understand
what made Apple products great, then so can his underlings, past and future.
As for the comment that VoiceOver is merely
one part of accessibility, that may be
completely accurate, but it’s irrelevant to
a discussion about quality control. We are
the customers and we expect a great experience
while using VoiceOver. Perhaps you accept
that a mainstream company can never deliver
the quality expected of an accessibility
company, but others might not. To these
people, Apple’s offering is inferior and you
are endorsing the view that we should merely
be grateful for an inferior alternative
instead of what we deserve. I am one of these
people. I want and expect VoiceOver to be
indistinguishable in quality from fully-paid
Windows screen readers, and fear that
Apple’s internalising of VoiceOver puts it
under unwelcome business pressures that
adversely affect us, particularly in recent
times, and not just for an initial release
either. I would prefer not to move to
Windows, but if I did, it would only because I
finally accepted that Apple’s strategy w
as untenable.
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