On 1/17/2023 8:15 AM, Jeff via mailop wrote:
We too have been seeing this in the last 48 hoursOnly from clients sending out from Proofpoint though.... and Google is marking them as Spam for the reason "Blatant Spam"... when they are clearly notWe have tickets open with all relevant providers (Proofpoint and Google) to see if we can figure this outOn Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 9:10 AM Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote:Dnia 17.01.2023 o godz. 13:16:03 Paul Gregg via mailop pisze: > Heads up in case anyone else is experiencing this. > > We are aware of a recent change in behaviour of gmail.com <http://gmail.com> where > most email is placed directly into Spam folder. > > So far we have dozens of customers reporting this. > Tested myself with full SPF, DKIM and DMARC with p=reject - which gmail > itself marks as passing all tests. The mail was also delivered over TLS. > Mails go to Spam. > > We're trying to reach out to google, but so far have no response. > > We don't think it is just 'us', as reddit r/msp has others reporting > same from O365 direct to gmail. Welcome to the club :( I'm experiencing this for over 2 years. Have written about this on this very list a few times. Google just suddenly stopped to "like" my domain. I had no SPF, DKIM nor DMARC at that time (despite this I didn't have any deliverability problem, including Google). After Google changed something and started to spam-mark my mail I implemented SPF/DKIM/DMARC (outgoing only, I don't want to bother with checking this crap on incoming mail). Everything passes at Google, but it doesn't help. However, when I send from exactly the same server, using exactly the same mail client, only with diferent sender domain, the mails go through. So I know it's the domain Google doesn't like. Nothing helps - even when the recipient at Gmail flags my mail as non-spam, it can happen that next messages from me still go to spam. Even when I REPLY (!) to a mail I got from a Gmail user, my reply goes to spam, which is completely illogical. It should be obvious for Google to detect that this is a reply to a message that was previously sent from Gmail. I have filled in the "sender troubleshooting form" on Google website multiple times (you need to provide headers from receiving side of the mail that was misclassified as spam, so I made myself a test account at Gmail that I am sending messages to) - however they state in advance that they won't contact you and inform you whether they did anything or not to your complaint. Looks like they didn't do anything. I managed to reach Brandon from Google via this very list, but he said that it just works so and from their point of view they don't see any reason to change anything. I just happen to have a domain whose parent domain has a "poor reputation" and I have to accept it. I even made a blog post about it some time ago, but it's in my language (ie. Polish). After that post I was contacted by some other people who are unlucky to be in the same situation. Shame on you Google.-- Regards,Jaroslaw Rafa r...@rafa.eu.org -- "In a million years, when kids go to school, they're gonna know: once there was a Hushpuppy, and she lived with her daddy in the Bathtub." _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
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