We have emails going to Spam which originate from O365/PPE. Separately we have 
emails which are now being categorized as updates which previously were not. 
Sorry if that wasn’t clear.


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Sorry - categories*, not labels.
On 1/17/2023 9:43 AM, Mark Alley wrote:

The labels in Gmail/workspace aren't the same as spam, they are part of the 
Inbox. If you have the user turn off labels, you will see them still in the 
inbox as expected.
On 1/17/2023 9:32 AM, Robert Schoneman via mailop wrote:
Our outbound email from O365 through PPE to Gmail and Google Workspace is going 
to Spam. “Show Original” indicates pass on all of SPF, DKIM, DMARC. Emails that 
are nothing but text are going to Spam along with emails containing links 
and/or attachments. We got the first user ticket about this issue on Sunday 
evening when trying to communicate with a partner who uses Google Workspace.

We’ve also seen emails from our contact center system and ticketing system 
which previously went to user’s Gmail Inboxes now going to “Updates”. Contact 
center and ticketing system do not go through PPE or O365.

Something has definitely changed on Google’s side.

From: mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org><mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org> On 
Behalf Of Gellner, Oliver via mailop
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2023 10:15 AM
To: mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: Re: [mailop] gmail putting most messages into Spam



On 2023-01-17 14:41, Paul Gregg via mailop wrote:



> We are aware of a recent change in behaviour of gmail.com where most email is 
> placed directly into Spam folder.

> So far we have dozens of customers reporting this.

> Tested myself with full SPF, DKIM and DMARC with p=reject - which gmail 
> itself marks as passing all tests. The mail was also delivered over TLS.

> Mails go to Spam.



I cannot confirm this issue, so it may be specific to certain IP addresses or 
domains, as in Jaroslaw Rafas case, where it's likely connected to the 
reputation of the used domain.

Either way, SPF, DKIM and DMARC authenticate a message, they do not say whether 
it's spam or not.



--

BR Oliver



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