A (wanted) notification from Google's Blogger service to me went to
spam this morning, which is new and unique. But it talks about email
auth, and spam, so I'm not 100% sure it's related.

I'd love to see an example of this -- anybody affected, feel free to
email me off list? This address ([email protected]) is Gmail.

Thanks,
Al

On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 8:32 AM Mark Alley via mailop <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Just to clarify - Do you mean from Proofpoint enterprise (PoD) customers or 
> Proofpoint essentials? I could definitely see essentials having this problem 
> as their IP space is shared amongst customers, but PoD clusters each 
> individually have their own IPs that are separate from any other customer.
>
> On 1/17/2023 8:15 AM, Jeff via mailop wrote:
>
> We too have been seeing this in the last 48 hours
>
> Only from clients sending out from Proofpoint though.... and Google is 
> marking them as Spam for the reason "Blatant Spam"... when they are clearly 
> not
>
> We have tickets open with all relevant providers (Proofpoint and Google) to 
> see if we can figure this out
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 9:10 AM Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>>
>> Dnia 17.01.2023 o godz. 13:16:03 Paul Gregg via mailop pisze:
>> > Heads up in case anyone else is experiencing this.
>> >
>> > We are aware of a recent change in behaviour of gmail.com where
>> > most email is placed directly into Spam folder.
>> >
>> > So far we have dozens of customers reporting this.
>> > Tested myself with full SPF, DKIM and DMARC with p=reject - which gmail
>> > itself marks as passing all tests. The mail was also delivered over TLS.
>> > Mails go to Spam.
>> >
>> > We're trying to reach out to google, but so far have no response.
>> >
>> > We don't think it is just 'us', as reddit r/msp has others reporting
>> > same from O365 direct to gmail.
>>
>> Welcome to the club :(
>>
>> I'm experiencing this for over 2 years. Have written about this on this very
>> list a few times. Google just suddenly stopped to "like" my domain. I had
>> no SPF, DKIM nor DMARC at that time (despite this I didn't have any
>> deliverability problem, including Google). After Google changed something
>> and started to spam-mark my mail I implemented SPF/DKIM/DMARC (outgoing
>> only, I don't want to bother with checking this crap on incoming mail).
>> Everything passes at Google, but it doesn't help.
>>
>> However, when I send from exactly the same server, using exactly the same
>> mail client, only with diferent sender domain, the mails go through. So I
>> know it's the domain Google doesn't like.
>>
>> Nothing helps - even when the recipient at Gmail flags my mail as non-spam,
>> it can happen that next messages from me still go to spam. Even when I REPLY
>> (!) to a mail I got from a Gmail user, my reply goes to spam, which is
>> completely illogical. It should be obvious for Google to detect that this is
>> a reply to a message that was previously sent from Gmail.
>>
>> I have filled in the "sender troubleshooting form" on Google website
>> multiple times (you need to provide headers from receiving side of the mail
>> that was misclassified as spam, so I made myself a test account at Gmail
>> that I am sending messages to) - however they state in advance that they
>> won't contact you and inform you whether they did anything or not to your
>> complaint. Looks like they didn't do anything. I managed to reach Brandon
>> from Google via this very list, but he said that it just works so and from
>> their point of view they don't see any reason to change anything. I just
>> happen to have a domain whose parent domain has a "poor reputation" and I
>> have to accept it.
>>
>> I even made a blog post about it some time ago, but it's in my language (ie.
>> Polish). After that post I was contacted by some other people who are
>> unlucky to be in the same situation.
>>
>> Shame on you Google.
>> --
>> Regards,
>>    Jaroslaw Rafa
>>    [email protected]
>> --
>> "In a million years, when kids go to school, they're gonna know: once there
>> was a Hushpuppy, and she lived with her daddy in the Bathtub."
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