On Fri, Nov 7, 2025 at 03:15 PM, Charles wrote:

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> On Fri, Nov 7, 2025 at 05:56 PM, hari kumar wrote:
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>> 2. You then argue that well - Rightists also attacked the man. . . 
>> basically concluding that this somehow vindicates him. Isn't that the
>> sense here?
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Thanks, Charles for highlighting that remark from hari. No, there is no 
"conclusion" that being attacked by the right "vindicates" anyone.

I really wish people would make clearer distinctions between what somebody 
writes and what that incidentally brings to their mind. Just because I said 
something that made you think something else doesn't mean that what you thought 
is what I "really meant." David Bohm promoted "dialogue" that involved deep 
listening, a kind of listening that encouraged participants to withold their 
reactions to what somebody was saying until they were sure they heard what that 
person was actually saying. Bohm's dialogue was based on a theory of mind in 
which each individual's thoughts are incomplete without the thoughts of other 
people. Intelligence or consciousness requires suspending judgement on other 
people's speech, especially judgements about what one assumes the others 
actually meant that is distinct from what they said.

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