On Sun, Nov 9, 2025 at 08:17 PM, Tom Walker wrote: > > Lenin et al. didn't have the luxury of looking back on the situation from > 75 years later.
Agreed, Tom. See my response to Hari a couple of weeks ago where I think most of us would have made the same choice in the absence of a crystal ball. https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/38997 I also agree with Charles about the many positive features of the Soviet experiment which represented an advance over the capitalist mode of production in the West, but the unfortunate fact which I was addressing is that they came at a very great cost and were historically short-lived. Charles is buoyed by Mao's exhaortation to "fight, fail, fight again, fail again, fight again ... until victory; that is the logic of the people... This is another Marxist law." Mao might have tempered his enthusiasm if he had lived to see capitalism restored in Russia and Deng's turn to private markets at home and China's integration into the global capitalist economy. History has confirmed that the world revolution necessarily had to begin in the most advanced economies rather than the least developed in order for it to endure. If the socialist revolution had broken out in the US in October 1917 rather than in Russia, we would not be having this conversation. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#39208): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/39208 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/116179785/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/13617172/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
