On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 10:51 AM, Charles wrote:

> 
> Gandall is trapped in Trotsky's doctrine of "world revolution:" we
> shouldn't do it, we shouldn't do it, ... just let things  get to a Mel
> Gibson Mad Max world.

Charles, Trotsky and other Marxists never counselled political passivity in the 
greater number of countries which had not arrived at the stage of capitalist 
collapse and socialist revolution. To the contrary, they stressed the need for 
political action always and everywhere. But they insisted political action had 
to conform to the evolving level of consciousness and militancy of the masses, 
largely shaped by the prevailing power relations between the classes.

Most of us took this lesson to heart in our activity in the unions, parties, 
and movements which promoted the interests of the working class and its allies 
at home and abroad. Our involvement was based on the understanding that the 
consciousness of the the workers was primarily advanced though their experience 
in struggle - in our lifetime, for social reforms and democratic rights - which 
we encouraged and tried to steer in a revolutionary direction. We considered 
that standing apart from these struggles and citing Mao and other Marxist texts 
in an effort to inspire workers with a “communist vision” ran counter to this 
objective.


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