PEOPLE! I have two wagons - one with its original SLS and the other a spring/shock conversion to go with a replacement non-300TD engine. You are welcome to test drive and compare. I have done this many times, however, and while I can state with certainty that the non-SLS 300TD is safe to drive, the correctly suspended (?) 300TD has a more comfortable, stable suspension and is there fore more fun to drive.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Tyler <casi...@usermail.com> wrote: > Modifications aren't about knowing more than Mercedes or re-inventing the > wheel- fitting a proper rate spring and damper to give you the handling you > want isn't magic or rocket science- there are dozens of books about it and > it's done properly on almost every car made, including the vast majority of > W123s. The ONLY difference is that the wagon has more weight in the rear end > and cargo capacity, requiring a different spring rate and dampener valve. > How different? Look at the same engineering books as the "magic" mercedes > engineers looked at, and calculate it the same way they did for the sedan. > Why did they go to all of the extra trouble and expense of the hydraulic > system then? Because it gives a smoother ride, and it's a good marketing > gimmick- not because a spring is dangerous or less reliable. I for one > prefer a stiffer ride and better handling than most car buyers, so it's > reasonable for me to modify the suspension on my vehicles accordingly- and I > do careful research and make conservative changes to ensure that the result > is safe and reliable. > > There's nothing wrong with modifying a vehicle to suit your needs, if you > know what you're doing and why you're doing it. It doesn't have to mean that > you think the origional engineers were wrong to do what they did, or that > you know more, just that the circumstances are extremely different. I have > had excellent luck adding and removing features, and making minor changes to > many different brands of car to allow them to work properly under the > conditions I use them in, which are often somewhat different from those they > were designed for. I don't, for example consider the fact that I prefer to > add a loud audible alarm to my oil pressure and coolant level sensors an > assault on the competence of the company who decided not to include one from > the factory. > > Sincerely, > Tyler > > > On Oct 9, 2009, at 6:54 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: > > I have done quite a few engine swaps, even put a v-8 in a body made for 6 >> cyl inline ONLY. That was an adventure. >> >> I have worked on everything from tractors to medium duty trucks, houses, >> commercial buildings concrete, etc. >> >> I do not presume to know more about suspension than the team of >> German-trained engineers (real engineers) that designed the 123 SLS system. >> >> tyler, have at it, but I sincerely hope you are never coming toward me >> with your frankenheap on an Icy curve with a bump on a rainy night. >> >> >> At 06:34 PM 10/9/2009, you wrote: >> >>> *Ahem* >>> >>> I believe the term here is "put up or shut up". If its so easy just take >>> a long weekend at Andrew's and show us how awesome you can make his car. I'm >>> sure he'd give you dinner... >>> >>> -Curt >>> >>> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:48:30 -0700 >>> From: tyler <casi...@usermail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Great car but it needs a motor >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> Message-ID: <4acfbdbe.4020...@usermail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >>> >>> It IS trivial to use a spring with the correct spring rate... Anyone >>> that can do an engine swap, could do this much cheaper and easier. >>> >>> Tyler >>> >>> Peter T. Arnold wrote: >>> > GO for it! Redesign it. I'm sure that the effort would be trivial to >>> > a fellow like you. >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091009/cfb2e204/attachment.html >>> > >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> Loren Faeth >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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