I see it happen with some regularity, as I am one of the investigators who 
gathers the evidence for the administrative and HR staff.

I'm still amazed at how brazen people are when they clearly know their actions 
are being monitored and recorded.

Dan

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> On Jun 4, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
> You big meanie. It obviously was not her fault. It was the fault of her 
> supervisor who did not make it expressly clear that her time at work was to 
> be used for the work of the employer.
> Very obviously, it should have been her supervisor who fell on his sword.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 04/06/2014 1:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>> There is a myth that it is hard to terminate deadbeat or fraudulent Fed
>> employees.
>> 
>> I once took action against a young lady who was doing Amway business from
>> her desk on government time.  I went through the agency's personnel office
>> to prepare the evidence in compliance with OPM regulations, and then
>> presented the wrongdoer with this information.  She resigned within days
>> when it was clear that we had her dead to rights.  Piece of cake.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 04/06/2014 10:51 AM, G Mann wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I formulated some time ago that I work by the job for profit... all
>>>> government workers work for retirement.  Any act that can delay their
>>>> actual work, or production of work, at minimum effort, moves them further
>>>> toward their goal of retirement at full pension benefits. The only caveat
>>>> to that effort is the question: "If I do this, will it bring promotion to
>>>> a
>>>> higher pay thus greater retirement income."
>>>> 
>>>> In the alternative the question: " If I do this, will it attract negative
>>>> attention to me, and if it does, how will I cover my now exposed ass so it
>>>> does not hold back promotion and retirement."
>>>> 
>>>> This "federal culture mindset" permeates every government agency and ,
>>>> history indicates, can not be overcome by peaceful means.​
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  And, you need to get promoted high enough that you don't actually do
>>> anything. Your job is to "supervise" people who are supposed to do the work.
>>> Since no one expects much and those above you are trusting that you are
>>> doing your job and don't bother to check, all is well.
>>> It also helps if you get promoted high enough to have a private office.
>>> A friend who once worked for the feds said that his boss sat in his
>>> private office and ran a chain of Chinese restaurants via his cell phone.
>>> 
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