at a time earlier than now, Dave Rolsky wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, brian moseley wrote:
> 
> But I'd also like to point out, as Matt Sergeant said, this stuff is
> _really_ hard, and not very glamorous.  I would've done much less of it

 while the install and auto configure part is not very glamorous, the 
 possibility of being able to untar one package to get mod_perl w/ persistent 
 db connections, transaction management, data relational modeling/objects and 
 a nice templating/servlet engine is very glamorous! you could be a folk hero!

 honestly it seems like a pretty worthwhile project to me. basically, what is
 missing is (cough! cough!) simply a lot of hard work. 
 
 except for transaction management, which is apparently of questionable value, 
 all the pieces exist, right?

   database abstraction and connection pooling => DBI
   session management                          => Apache::Session
   load balancing                              => mod_backhand??
   data relational mapping                     => Tangram or Alzabo
   templates or whatever you want to call them => HTML::Embperl/Mason/TemplateToolkit
   ide => pick an editor with a few hooks to call make, install and restart

 granted this may not get us everything, but if we could package up the stuff
 we all use over and over again, wouldn't that get us pretty far? 

 Aaron

 I'm willing to contribute time to this project if given some input on how 
 to proceed.


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