dmb said: Think about what Pirsig says about fascism, that it is the glorification of social values and social authority, especially at the expense of intellectual values. Then think about the complaints from Arlo and me. ...All this fear of other religions, flag waving, war making, tough guy foreign policy and xenophobic fear mongering is essentially the worship of social values and social authority.
woods replied: Why are you saying this to me? Your point? ...You're stuck in a left-right, two-party paradigm, sounds SOM. ... dmb says: Well, first of all I think it is only realistic to look at our politics in terms of the two parties. Until something very big changes, that's just the reality we all have to deal with. But more importantly, SOM has nothing to do with my point. My point is that we can see the conflict between social and intellectual values in our politics and I was trying to make a case that we MOQers ought to be able to make a practical choice right now based on that. As I understand it, voting Republican this year is wrong in both senses of the word, which is to say it would be incorrect and immoral. Take a look at Naomi Wolf's speech and then tell me if she is, in effect, making a case for the intellectual control of society or not. _________________________________________________________________ Store, manage and share up to 5GB with Windows Live SkyDrive. http://skydrive.live.com/welcome.aspx?provision=1?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_102008 Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
