Hi Marco,

> The MOQish is NOT mystic. He does not think that the future is illusion, he just 
>think that in order to attain (a future) Quality, one has to be an artist in the 
>present (remember the motorcycle maintenance).

Now that's strange. As far as I remember, the only difference RMP assumes between 
himself and a mystic is the attempt to analyze Quality with metaphysical tools. As far 
as personal ethics goes, I can't remember any single passage in Lila or ZAMM that 
establishes any substantial difference between a MOQist and a mystic.

Now *if* there is no "official" difference between MOQist and mystic morals, and you 
claim there is one, you must be expressing a personal belief about one of them. I 
think you got the mystics wrong. Of course "mystic" is a rather vague term, but 
eastern philosophies, for example, aren't so simple as you depict them. The taoistic 
concept of "in-action", for example, is too often misunderstood for "doing nothing" 
(so the children starve) but ask any serious taoist and you will find it's actually 
more like "going with the flow", which can also be restated by "doing the right thing 
here and how". The mystic taoist believes, among other things, that "you are what you 
do". Acting is of utmost relevance to most of the mystics I know.

For what concerns the rest of your post, I still think we basically agree. I think the 
passages on motorcycle maintenance, that I forgot to mention while you did, are all 
that's needed. Remember what he says about small annoyances (a screw that can't be 
driven off - sorry for my english here, can't find the right terms). These are 
frustrating annoyances if you're only looking at the future goal, and everything in 
between is just a (valueless) means. But when you dispose of your rational 
infrastructure when *evaluating*, you find that your good, here&now, is finding a way 
to get rid of the screw. This is what is *worth* now.

It can be worth collecting money for a good cause. It can be worth building a 
hospital. The concept that's ruled out by MOQ is: "i am doing some frustrating, 
annoying, intrinsically valueless activity of collecting resources in order to do 
something good in the future".

A




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