No, obviously I don't think consciousness is *essentally* attached to any SQ
history. I was merely observing that in language we do, in fact, so attach
it. E.G. 'Got up this morning...[insert blues here]'. (I'm going to play
lucille now...)
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> From: Andrea Sosio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization: Italtel S.p.A.
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 12:20:15 +0200
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: MD Consciousness/Awareness/the property market in London
>
> Nice to have you back in the discussion, Elephant.
>
> While I agree that we have no evidence insofar of the fact that we all share
> the
> "same" consciousness, whatever that means, I think we have none of the
> opposite,
> too. If I can add my 2 cents here:
>
> Elephant:
> Persons, Conciousnesses - these are different concepts... Once you recognise
> that
> the static patterns (the identification of distinct persons) is overlaid on a
> continuum, one thing which this removes *immediately* is the possibility of
> saying
> something crass (which of course you do not in fact say) like 'we are all
> one'.
> Such a statement severally supposes and asserts precisely the kind of static
> pattern it claims to be transcending: 'one', 'all', 'we'.
>
> True. (No offense intended - trivial too?)
>
> Elephant:
> Transparently, from the moment we enter language to report on the affairs of
> 'we'
> and of 'I', *we are not one*. My consciousness, a consciousness of DQ
> attached to
> a particular SQ history, is a different consciousness from yours.
>
> What makes you define consciousness as something that inherently has a
> particular
> SQ attached to it? Perhaps you see consciousness as something that is
> intrinsically related to a point of view, its perceptions, and so on. And you
> seem
> to blame this on language, but that's not true IMHO: language has "me", "I",
> "we",
> but nothing that says that these concepts apply to "consciousness" (which is,
> I
> think, what you are debating). Maybe the post you are replying to was based
> on
> the idea of a -lets say- "something" that makes up your consciousness and
> mine, so
> that:
>
> you = (the) Consciousness + all your personal SQ history, context, etc.
> me = (the) Consciousness + all my personal SQ history, context, etc.
>
> Or you could replace the "+" with a "with". (God in your body with your past
> is
> exactly you, God in my body with my past is exactly me, isn't He).
>
> Just a thought.
> Andrea
>
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