Lori, I agree. That's why my district purchases a program. The only one out there right now that focuses on comprehension strategies is Rigby's Literacy by Design. While it may not be ideal, it does set parameters for the teachers. My district has 8 elementary schools and by purchasing a program, administration feels that everyone will be accountable.
-----Original Message----- From: mosaic-boun...@literacyworkshop.org [mailto:mosaic-boun...@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of ljackson Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:38 PM To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] scripts and thinking Thoughts...generally, I agree but I believe that districts must strive to set meaningful parameters for teachers to work within. The notion of 'dong your own thing' is so singly teacher dependent that when you cannot guarantee the integrity and commitment of the teacher, it can be very dangerous. I base this on my experience with a few who equate flying by the seat of their pants with doing their own thing. Lori On 2/22/09 11:51 AM, "Renee" <phoenix...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > 1. Why can a piano student not learn to play "the right way" using a > Beatles tune? > > 2. There is no THE right way to teach. > > 3. Some teachers' "own thing" is far, far more effective, meaningful, > interesting, and motivating than a scripted lesson that purports to be > "the right thing." > > Renee > > > On Feb 22, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Debbie Goodis wrote: > >> Hello, >> I had to jump in here. My two cents. I used to take piano as a child. >> I would go to my lessons and then come back home, practice for 5 >> minutes and proceed to "do my own thing." My father would scold me and >> say, "Learn to play the right way, then you can play anyway you want!" >> I knew what he meant. I was complaining that I had to play, Fur Elise, >> or some other classical piece when all I wanted to play was Joni >> Mitchell or The Beatles. He wanted me to learn HOW TO PLAY, get that >> foundation, and then move on to making my own music. He was right...it >> was a good foundation. I think the same goes for scripts. I used to >> hate them, too, but I understand why the powers that be think they are >> necessary. Too many teachers are doing "their own thing," when they >> should be aware of research about good teaching. Scripts make sure we >> "learn to teach the right way" so that we can then incorporate those >> techniques and make them our own. I am a thinking teacher like all of >> you and when I am observed I am never using "the script" but I always >> get compliments on how well the students are engaged and thinking. No >> one has ever corrected the words I used during a lesson. We use a >> scripted program, but like all of you, I learned more from Lucy >> Calkins and Debbie Miller. I mostly use the "scripts" from those >> experts and like I said, I've never been corrected. With all that >> said, I know there are principals who wouldn't like anything other >> than the script being used during a lesson. That is unfortunate, and >> it tells me that those individuals are NOT thinking either! Hope that >> helps.. >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: "teach2h...@aol.com" <teach2h...@aol.com> >> To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:59:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] scripts and thinking >> >> >> In a message dated 2/20/2009 12:23:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, >> mosaic-requ...@literacyworkshop.org writes: >> >> think scripts have a place for some teachers especially if >> >> Just food for thought:) Did any of us in our journey through learning >> how to >> teach comprehension strategies and transforming our classrooms into >> literate >> rich communities ever use "Debbie Millers script"? "Did you say over >> and over >> again "So, how did that help you as a reader?" so many times that you >> felt it >> was a recording? Possibly, but I bet you moved on to even deeper >> conversation. You moved on with your readers and where they were in >> their journey. I >> sure did use those scripts and sometimes still do. . . especially >> when something >> is still new to me. But, I am a thinking teacher and appreciate >> Debbie and >> Lucy's words as a model and use them until they become comfortable and >> become my own versions. . . until I am able to move past them and >> mold my own >> words according to the readers I am with and their needs. Thank you >> so much Lucy >> for giving me the "think about reading worker script I love to use! >> Thank you >> so much to the "Learning Pad" site that has some wonderful scripting. >> I did >> not think of any of these great ideas, but used the ideas to aide my >> own >> understanding and thinking. Do we not provide scripts for our own >> readers in our >> classroom as we model conversations in reader's share each day? >> Eventually, >> they are asking these same questions of others and more importantly of >> themselves when they think about their thinking. "Scripts" can have >> their place in >> learning. Starting with a script of some sort doesn't mean one is >> going to rely >> on them always but is just using it as a jumping point. Some may not >> ever need >> them, some may. Just my thoughts. >> >> Cynthia Hart >> Lexington >> **************Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. >> (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search? >> query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000003) >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >> >> > "And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make." > ~ John Lennon / Paul McCartney ~ Carry That Weight > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > -- Lori Jackson District Literacy Coach & Mentor Todd County School District Box 87 Mission SD 57555 http:www.tcsdk12.org ph. 605.856.2211 Literacies for All Summer Institute July 17-20. 2008 Tucson, Arizona _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. 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