hey frank -
i did... i wiggled one on there (one meaning not both the 10 and 12
position at the same time) while the card was out.. it was def. not an
easy fit. so with 4 in place on the mother board there is just no way to
rock the card back and forth to get the thing to mate correctly. i was
using enough force to get me to the point of thinking "this can't be
right" .. we all have experienced this point while working on something
... dig?
anyone else on the list here have a known correct replacement for series
IIIc modules? the receptacles are def. a bit bigger in the originals. see
photo attached. i will be talking to a tech at digi-key later and see what
they say. and i'll report back.
1000 thanks...
pete
On May 21, 2011, at 1:56 AM, Frank Moscowitz wrote:
> I feel partially responsible for that mishap - the not fitting - the
ones I put in my Series 1 fit the pins a bit snugly, but it wasn't
impossible to get things to mate - some force was required though - IIRC
on that series III the connectors felt a little loose... have you tried
test fitting some on a module outside of the board?
>
> FM
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, pete <[email protected]> wrote:
> UGH
>
> the molex connectors i ordered don't fit. they are the correct
dimensions except for the receptacles... the holes are too small for the
card connectors. i did a pair of channels and just could not get the
cards to seat AT ALL. i fear that the correct part may not be available
anymore or something like that... time to talk to digi-key on the phone!
>
> well... i guess for the time being i'll put the old ones back in
(before cleaning them really well) and i'll see if that fixes these 2 channels.
>
> -pete
>
>
> On May 20, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Jim wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Pete,
> >
> > IMO, best to stick with Iso and follow what Ike noted. He also gave a
great treatment on how to identify bad solder joints; pay close
attention! Using D5 or some of the other stuff can end up causing the
type of mess you previously posted on the top side of the mother board.
It will leave a lubricant/protection residue (good *inside* pots and
switches, but bad on the surface of things) that will attract dust, dirt,
etc. over time.
> >
> > There used to be some really great cleaning, treating and lubricating
chemicals on the market but some of them were really toxic and probably
are what killed off many of my brain cells............TCE, DCE, and such.
> >
> > About the most "harsh" stuff I use anymore is Acetone. It does a
pretty decent job of removing flux residue (if you scrub with an old
tooth brush well), but it can also dissolve and even melt some type of
plastics...........always test on a tiny portion before using! It's very
flammable too, stay ventilated and be careful.
> >
> > A couple years ago on the list, someone had mentioned a
cleaner/treatment for pots and switches............."stabil...something"?
I think you'd buy a xx quantity and then dilute with water before using?
Or could have been on the Ampex list, (see what I mean about brain cells?).
> >
> > Regards, Jim
> >
> >
> >
> > At 03:25 PM 5/20/2011, you wrote:
> >> so is isopropyl alcohol the way to go here?
> >>
> >> pete
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 20, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Ike Zimbel wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Proceed with caution. I just had a chat about this yesterday with
a colleague in Nashville. I own some D-5, and I very rarely use it. It is
a very powerful oxide remover, and should probably be removed with
isopropyl after use. Check the CAIG web site and follow their
instructions. I prefer to use G-5 (ProGold) in small quantities for this
sort of thing, and F-5 for pots and switches.
> >> > best,
> >> > Ike
> >> >
> >> > On 11-05-20 2:42 PM, pete wrote:
> >> >> what is the collective thought on Deoxit D5 on this type of
cleaning we have been talking about (to resolve intermittency issues)? i
have a can of that on hand actually.
> >> >>
> >> >> -pete
> >> >>
> >> >> On May 20, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Donald Put wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> In addition to all the fine advice Matt and Ike shared, I've
found oxidized IC pins/sockets at times when going through my Series
II. I've also found ICs with bent pins that "curled" up when someone
pushed them in but were touching the socket just enough to get an
intermittent connection. Granted, this is a rare problem but it's one
I've seen a few times. When you pull a channel out, take the time to
remove the IC (if they're socketed on a Series III), clean the
pins/sockets, and reinstall. Even if this isn't the immediate problem it
will go a long way to help you avoid more issues in the long run.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Cheers,
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Don
> >> >>>
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hey frank -
i did... i wiggled one on there (one meaning not both the 10 and 12
position at the same time) while the card was out.. it was def. not an
easy fit. so with 4 in place on the mother board there is just no way to
rock the card back and forth to get the thing to mate correctly. i was
using enough force to get me to the point of thinking "this can't be
right" ... we all have experienced this point while working on something
... dig?
anyone else on the list here have a known correct replacement for series
IIIc modules? the receptacles are def. a bit bigger in the originals. see
photo attached. i will be talking to a tech at digi-key later and see what
they say. and i'll report back.
1000 thanks...
pete
On May 21, 2011, at 1:56 AM, Frank Moscowitz wrote:
I feel partially responsible for that mishap - the not fitting - the ones
I put in my Series 1 fit the pins a bit snugly, but it wasn't impossible
to get things to mate - some force was required though - IIRC on that
series III the connectors felt a little loose... have you tried test
fitting some on a module outside of the board?
FM
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, pete
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
UGH
the molex connectors i ordered don't fit. they are the correct dimensions
except for the receptacles... the holes are too small for the card
connectors. i did a pair of channels and just could not get the cards to
seat AT ALL. i fear that the correct part may not be available anymore or
something like that... time to talk to digi-key on the phone!
well... i guess for the time being i'll put the old ones back in (before
cleaning them really well) and i'll see if that fixes these 2 channels.
-pete
On May 20, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Jim wrote:
>
> Hi Pete,
>
> IMO, best to stick with Iso and follow what Ike noted. He also gave a
great treatment on how to identify bad solder joints; pay close
attention! Using D5 or some of the other stuff can end up causing the
type of mess you previously posted on the top side of the mother board.
It will leave a lubricant/protection residue (good *inside* pots and
switches, but bad on the surface of things) that will attract dust,
dirt, etc. over time.
>
> There used to be some really great cleaning, treating and lubricating
chemicals on the market but some of them were really toxic and probably
are what killed off many of my brain cells............TCE, DCE, and such.
>
> About the most "harsh" stuff I use anymore is Acetone. It does a
pretty decent job of removing flux residue (if you scrub with an old
tooth brush well), but it can also dissolve and even melt some type of
plastics...........always test on a tiny portion before using! It's very
flammable too, stay ventilated and be careful.
>
> A couple years ago on the list, someone had mentioned a
cleaner/treatment for pots and
switches............."stabil...something"? I think you'd buy a xx
quantity and then dilute with water before using? Or could have been on
the Ampex list, (see what I mean about brain cells?).
>
> Regards, Jim
>
>
>
> At 03:25 PM 5/20/2011, you wrote:
>> so is isopropyl alcohol the way to go here?
>>
>> pete
>>
>>
>> On May 20, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Ike Zimbel wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Proceed with caution. I just had a chat about this yesterday with a
colleague in Nashville. I own some D-5, and I very rarely use it. It is
a very powerful oxide remover, and should probably be removed with
isopropyl after use. Check the CAIG web site and follow their
instructions. I prefer to use G-5 (ProGold) in small quantities for this
sort of thing, and F-5 for pots and switches.
>> > best,
>> > Ike
>> >
>> > On 11-05-20 2:42 PM, pete wrote:
>> >> what is the collective thought on Deoxit D5 on this type of
cleaning we have been talking about (to resolve intermittency issues)? i
have a can of that on hand actually.
>> >>
>> >> -pete
>> >>
>> >> On May 20, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Donald Put wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> In addition to all the fine advice Matt and Ike shared, I've
found oxidized IC pins/sockets at times when going through my Series
II. I've also found ICs with bent pins that "curled" up when someone
pushed them in but were touching the socket just enough to get an
intermittent connection. Granted, this is a rare problem but it's one
I've seen a few times. When you pull a channel out, take the time to
remove the IC (if they're socketed on a Series III), clean the
pins/sockets, and reinstall. Even if this isn't the immediate problem
it will go a long way to help you avoid more issues in the long run.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> --
>> >>> Don
>> >>>
>> >> ------
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>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ike Zimbel,
>> > Zimbel Audio Productions Ltd.
>> > Toronto
>> > <tel:416-720-0887>416-720-0887
>> >
>> > "Studio House Calls". Authorized Warranty service for
Allen& Heath, Clear-Com, Drawmer, Soundcraft, SPL and Yamaha. Repairs
and upgrades to analog audio equipment including: AMEK, dbx, Neve,
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