jim - if you could shoot me this info at your earliest convenience i would be forever grateful.
thanks.... pete On May 21, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Jim wrote: > > Hi Pete, > > IIRC, there are two different pin pitches (pin size and spacing) available > for this type connector. I do have the info for the correct part, but won't > be able to get it to you till Monday. > > Regards, Jim > > > > At 09:53 AM 5/21/2011, you wrote: >> hey frank - >> i did... i wiggled one on there (one meaning not both the 10 and 12 position >> at the same time) while the card was out.. it was def. not an easy fit. so >> with 4 in place on the mother board there is just no way to rock the card >> back and forth to get the thing to mate correctly. i was using enough force >> to get me to the point of thinking "this can't be right" .. we all have >> experienced this point while working on something ... dig? >> >> anyone else on the list here have a known correct replacement for series >> IIIc modules? the receptacles are def. a bit bigger in the originals. see >> photo attached. i will be talking to a tech at digi-key later and see what >> they say. and i'll report back. >> >> 1000 thanks... >> >> pete >> >> >> >> On May 21, 2011, at 1:56 AM, Frank Moscowitz wrote: >> >> > I feel partially responsible for that mishap - the not fitting - the ones >> > I put in my Series 1 fit the pins a bit snugly, but it wasn't impossible >> > to get things to mate - some force was required though - IIRC on that >> > series III the connectors felt a little loose... have you tried test >> > fitting some on a module outside of the board? >> > >> > FM >> > >> > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, pete <[email protected]> wrote: >> > UGH >> > >> > the molex connectors i ordered don't fit. they are the correct dimensions >> > except for the receptacles... the holes are too small for the card >> > connectors. i did a pair of channels and just could not get the cards to >> > seat AT ALL. i fear that the correct part may not be available anymore or >> > something like that... time to talk to digi-key on the phone! >> > >> > well... i guess for the time being i'll put the old ones back in (before >> > cleaning them really well) and i'll see if that fixes these 2 channels. >> > >> > -pete >> > >> > >> > On May 20, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Jim wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > Hi Pete, >> > > >> > > IMO, best to stick with Iso and follow what Ike noted. He also gave a >> > > great treatment on how to identify bad solder joints; pay close >> > > attention! Using D5 or some of the other stuff can end up causing the >> > > type of mess you previously posted on the top side of the mother board. >> > > It will leave a lubricant/protection residue (good *inside* pots and >> > > switches, but bad on the surface of things) that will attract dust, >> > > dirt, etc. over time. >> > > >> > > There used to be some really great cleaning, treating and lubricating >> > > chemicals on the market but some of them were really toxic and probably >> > > are what killed off many of my brain cells............TCE, DCE, and such. >> > > >> > > About the most "harsh" stuff I use anymore is Acetone. It does a pretty >> > > decent job of removing flux residue (if you scrub with an old tooth >> > > brush well), but it can also dissolve and even melt some type of >> > > plastics...........always test on a tiny portion before using! It's very >> > > flammable too, stay ventilated and be careful. >> > > >> > > A couple years ago on the list, someone had mentioned a >> > > cleaner/treatment for pots and >> > > switches............."stabil...something"? I think you'd buy a xx >> > > quantity and then dilute with water before using? Or could have been on >> > > the Ampex list, (see what I mean about brain cells?). >> > > >> > > Regards, Jim >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > At 03:25 PM 5/20/2011, you wrote: >> > >> so is isopropyl alcohol the way to go here? >> > >> >> > >> pete >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On May 20, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Ike Zimbel wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > Proceed with caution. I just had a chat about this yesterday with a >> > >> > colleague in Nashville. I own some D-5, and I very rarely use it. It >> > >> > is a very powerful oxide remover, and should probably be removed with >> > >> > isopropyl after use. Check the CAIG web site and follow their >> > >> > instructions. I prefer to use G-5 (ProGold) in small quantities for >> > >> > this sort of thing, and F-5 for pots and switches. >> > >> > best, >> > >> > Ike >> > >> > >> > >> > On 11-05-20 2:42 PM, pete wrote: >> > >> >> what is the collective thought on Deoxit D5 on this type of cleaning >> > >> >> we have been talking about (to resolve intermittency issues)? i have >> > >> >> a can of that on hand actually. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> -pete >> > >> >> >> > >> >> On May 20, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Donald Put wrote: >> > >> >> >> > >> >>> In addition to all the fine advice Matt and Ike shared, I've found >> > >> >>> oxidized IC pins/sockets at times when going through my Series II. >> > >> >>> I've also found ICs with bent pins that "curled" up when someone >> > >> >>> pushed them in but were touching the socket just enough to get an >> > >> >>> intermittent connection. Granted, this is a rare problem but it's >> > >> >>> one I've seen a few times. When you pull a channel out, take the >> > >> >>> time to remove the IC (if they're socketed on a Series III), clean >> > >> >>> the pins/sockets, and reinstall. Even if this isn't the immediate >> > >> >>> problem it will go a long way to help you avoid more issues in the >> > >> >>> long run. >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> Cheers, >> > >> >>> -- >> > >> >>> Don >> > >> >>> >> > >> >> ------ >> > >> >> >> > >> >> View the list online at: >> > >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> > >> >> >> > >> >> You can unsubscribe at anytime by sending an email to >> > >> >> mailto:[email protected] with "unsubscribe neotek" in the >> > >> >> message body. If you have any difficulties, or questions --please >> > >> >> send an email to mailto:[email protected]. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> The Neotek list is lovingly hosted by Catapult Web. Remember that >> > >> >> any message or reply sent to the list will be automatically >> > >> >> forwarded to all subscribers. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Vive Le Neotek! >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Thanks. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Ike Zimbel, >> > >> > Zimbel Audio Productions Ltd. >> > >> > Toronto >> > >> > 416-720-0887 >> > >> > >> > >> > "Studio House Calls". Authorized Warranty service for Allen& Heath, >> > >> > Clear-Com, Drawmer, Soundcraft, SPL and Yamaha. Repairs and upgrades >> > >> > to analog audio equipment including: AMEK, dbx, Neve, Neotek, MCI, >> > >> > Soundcraft and more. Ask about our RF frequency co-ordination >> > >> > services! >> > >> > www.zimbelaudio.com >> > >> > >> > >> > ------ >> > >> > >> > >> > View the list online at: >> > >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> > >> > >> > >> > You can unsubscribe at anytime by sending an email to >> > >> > mailto:[email protected] with "unsubscribe neotek" in the >> > >> > message body. If you have any difficulties, or questions --please >> > >> > send an email to mailto:[email protected]. >> > >> > >> > >> > The Neotek list is lovingly hosted by Catapult Web. Remember that any >> > >> > message or reply sent to the list will be automatically forwarded to >> > >> > all subscribers. >> > >> > >> > >> > Vive Le Neotek! >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks. >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> ------ >> > >> >> > >> View the list online at: >> > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> > >> >> > >> You can unsubscribe at anytime by sending an email to >> > >> mailto:[email protected] with "unsubscribe neotek" in the message >> > >> body. If you have any difficulties, or questions --please send an email >> > >> to mailto:[email protected]. >> > >> >> > >> The Neotek list is lovingly hosted by Catapult Web. Remember that any >> > >> message or reply sent to the list will be automatically forwarded to >> > >> all subscribers. >> > >> >> > >> Vive Le Neotek! >> > >> >> > >> Thanks. >> > > >> > > >> > > ------ >> > > >> > > View the list online at: >> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> > > >> > > You can unsubscribe at anytime by sending an email to >> > > mailto:[email protected] with "unsubscribe neotek" in the message >> > > body. If you have any difficulties, or questions --please send an email >> > > to mailto:[email protected]. >> > > >> > > The Neotek list is lovingly hosted by Catapult Web. Remember that any >> > > message or reply sent to the list will be automatically forwarded to all >> > > subscribers. >> > > >> > > Vive Le Neotek! >> > > >> > > Thanks. >> > > >> > >> > ------ >> > >> > View the list online at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> > >> > You can unsubscribe at anytime by sending an email to >> > mailto:[email protected] with "unsubscribe neotek" in the message >> > body. If you have any difficulties, or questions --please send an email to >> > mailto:[email protected]. >> > >> > The Neotek list is lovingly hosted by Catapult Web. Remember that any >> > message or reply sent to the list will be automatically forwarded to all >> > subscribers. >> > >> > Vive Le Neotek! >> > >> > Thanks. >> > >> >> hey frank - >> i did... i wiggled one on there (one meaning not both the 10 and 12 position >> at the same time) while the card was out.. it was def. not an easy fit. so >> with 4 in place on the mother board there is just no way to rock the card >> back and forth to get the thing to mate correctly. i was using enough force >> to get me to the point of thinking "this can't be right" ... we all have >> experienced this point while working on something ... dig? >> >> anyone else on the list here have a known correct replacement for series >> IIIc modules? the receptacles are def. a bit bigger in the originals. see >> photo attached. i will be talking to a tech at digi-key later and see what >> they say. and i'll report back. >> >> 1000 thanks... >> >> pete >> >> >> >> On May 21, 2011, at 1:56 AM, Frank Moscowitz wrote: >> >>> I feel partially responsible for that mishap - the not fitting - the ones I >>> put in my Series 1 fit the pins a bit snugly, but it wasn't impossible to >>> get things to mate - some force was required though - IIRC on that series >>> III the connectors felt a little loose... have you tried test fitting some >>> on a module outside of the board? >>> >>> FM >>> >>> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, pete >>> <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: >>> UGH >>> >>> the molex connectors i ordered don't fit. they are the correct dimensions >>> except for the receptacles... the holes are too small for the card >>> connectors. i did a pair of channels and just could not get the cards to >>> seat AT ALL. i fear that the correct part may not be available anymore or >>> something like that... time to talk to digi-key on the phone! >>> >>> well... i guess for the time being i'll put the old ones back in (before >>> cleaning them really well) and i'll see if that fixes these 2 channels. >>> >>> -pete >>> >>> >>> On May 20, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Jim wrote: >>> >>> > >>> > Hi Pete, >>> > >>> > IMO, best to stick with Iso and follow what Ike noted. He also gave a >>> > great treatment on how to identify bad solder joints; pay close >>> > attention! Using D5 or some of the other stuff can end up causing the >>> > type of mess you previously posted on the top side of the mother board. >>> > It will leave a lubricant/protection residue (good *inside* pots and >>> > switches, but bad on the surface of things) that will attract dust, dirt, >>> > etc. over time. >>> > >>> > There used to be some really great cleaning, treating and lubricating >>> > chemicals on the market but some of them were really toxic and probably >>> > are what killed off many of my brain cells............TCE, DCE, and such. >>> > >>> > About the most "harsh" stuff I use anymore is Acetone. It does a pretty >>> > decent job of removing flux residue (if you scrub with an old tooth brush >>> > well), but it can also dissolve and even melt some type of >>> > plastics...........always test on a tiny portion before using! It's very >>> > flammable too, stay ventilated and be careful. >>> > >>> > A couple years ago on the list, someone had mentioned a cleaner/treatment >>> > for pots and switches............."stabil...something"? I think you'd buy >>> > a xx quantity and then dilute with water before using? Or could have been >>> > on the Ampex list, (see what I mean about brain cells?). >>> > >>> > Regards, Jim >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > At 03:25 PM 5/20/2011, you wrote: >>> >> so is isopropyl alcohol the way to go here? >>> >> >>> >> pete >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On May 20, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Ike Zimbel wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > Proceed with caution. I just had a chat about this yesterday with a >>> >> > colleague in Nashville. I own some D-5, and I very rarely use it. It >>> >> > is a very powerful oxide remover, and should probably be removed with >>> >> > isopropyl after use. Check the CAIG web site and follow their >>> >> > instructions. I prefer to use G-5 (ProGold) in small quantities for >>> >> > this sort of thing, and F-5 for pots and switches. >>> >> > best, >>> >> > Ike >>> >> > >>> >> > On 11-05-20 2:42 PM, pete wrote: >>> >> >> what is the collective thought on Deoxit D5 on this type of cleaning >>> >> >> we have been talking about (to resolve intermittency issues)? i have >>> >> >> a can of that on hand actually. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> -pete >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On May 20, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Donald Put wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> In addition to all the fine advice Matt and Ike shared, I've found >>> >> >>> oxidized IC pins/sockets at times when going through my Series II. >>> >> >>> I've also found ICs with bent pins that "curled" up when someone >>> >> >>> pushed them in but were touching the socket just enough to get an >>> >> >>> intermittent connection. Granted, this is a rare problem but it's >>> >> >>> one I've seen a few times. When you pull a channel out, take the >>> >> >>> time to remove the IC (if they're socketed on a Series III), clean >>> >> >>> the pins/sockets, and reinstall. Even if this isn't the immediate >>> >> >>> problem it will go a long way to help you avoid more issues in the >>> >> >>> long run. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Cheers, >>> >> >>> -- >>> >> >>> Don >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> ------ >>> >> >> >>> >> >> View the list online at: >>> >> >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>> >> >> >>> >> >> You can unsubscribe at anytime by sending an email to >>> >> >> mailto:[email protected] with "unsubscribe neotek" in the >>> >> >> message body. If you have any difficulties, or questions --please >>> >> >> send an email to mailto:[email protected]. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> The Neotek list is lovingly hosted by Catapult Web. Remember that any >>> >> >> message or reply sent to the list will be automatically forwarded to >>> >> >> all subscribers. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Vive Le Neotek! >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Thanks. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Ike Zimbel, >>> >> > Zimbel Audio Productions Ltd. >>> >> > Toronto >>> >> > <tel:416-720-0887>416-720-0887 >>> >> > >>> >> > "Studio House Calls". Authorized Warranty service for Allen& Heath, >>> >> > Clear-Com, Drawmer, Soundcraft, SPL and Yamaha. Repairs and upgrades >>> >> > to analog audio equipment including: AMEK, dbx, Neve, Neotek, MCI, >>> >> > Soundcraft and more. Ask about our RF frequency co-ordination services! >>> >> > <http://www.zimbelaudio.com/>www.zimbelaudio.com >>> >> > >>> >> > ------ >>> >> > >>> >> > View the list online at: >>> >> > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>> >> > >>> >> > You can unsubscribe at anytime by sending an email to >>> >> > mailto:[email protected] with "unsubscribe neotek" in the >>> >> > message body. If you have any difficulties, or questions --please send >>> >> > an email to mailto:[email protected]. >>> >> > >>> >> > The Neotek list is lovingly hosted by Catapult Web. Remember that any >>> >> > message or reply sent to the list will be automatically forwarded to >>> >> > all subscribers. >>> >> > >>> >> > Vive Le Neotek! >>> >> > >>> >> > Thanks. >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> ------ >>> >> >>> >> View the list online at: >>> >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>> >> >>> >> You can unsubscribe at anytime by sending an email to >>> >> mailto:[email protected] with "unsubscribe neotek" in the message >>> >> body. If you have any difficulties, or questions --please send an email >>> >> to mailto:[email protected]. >>> >> >>> >> The Neotek list is lovingly hosted by Catapult Web. Remember that any >>> >> message or reply sent to the list will be automatically forwarded to all >>> >> subscribers. >>> >> >>> >> Vive Le Neotek! >>> >> >>> >> Thanks. >>> > >>> > >>> > ------ >>> > >>> > View the list online at: >>> > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>> > >>> > You can unsubscribe at anytime by sending an email to >>> > mailto:[email protected] with "unsubscribe neotek" in the message >>> > body. If you have any difficulties, or questions --please send an email >>> > to mailto:[email protected]. >>> > >>> > The Neotek list is lovingly hosted by Catapult Web. Remember that any >>> > message or reply sent to the list will be automatically forwarded to all >>> > subscribers. >>> > >>> > Vive Le Neotek! >>> > >>> > Thanks. >>> > >>> >>> ------ >>> >>> View the list online at: >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>> >>> You can unsubscribe at anytime by sending an email to >>> mailto:[email protected] with "unsubscribe neotek" in the message >>> body. If you have any difficulties, or questions --please send an email to >>> mailto:[email protected]. >>> >>> The Neotek list is lovingly hosted by Catapult Web. Remember that any >>> message or reply sent to the list will be automatically forwarded to all >>> subscribers. >>> >>> Vive Le Neotek! >>> >>> Thanks. >>> > > > ------ > > View the list online at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > You can unsubscribe at anytime by sending an email to > mailto:[email protected] with "unsubscribe neotek" in the message body. > If you have any difficulties, or questions --please send an email to > mailto:[email protected]. > > The Neotek list is lovingly hosted by Catapult Web. Remember that any message > or reply sent to the list will be automatically forwarded to all subscribers. > > Vive Le Neotek! > > Thanks. > ------ View the list online at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] You can unsubscribe at anytime by sending an email to mailto:[email protected] with "unsubscribe neotek" in the message body. If you have any difficulties, or questions --please send an email to mailto:[email protected]. The Neotek list is lovingly hosted by Catapult Web. Remember that any message or reply sent to the list will be automatically forwarded to all subscribers. Vive Le Neotek! Thanks.
