Hi Marc Yes, thanks for asking
My name is Andreas Maria Jacobs But I use also (since 1985) Agam Andreas or A. Andreas You can call me Andreas or Agam whatever you prefer Sorry for any possible confusion Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 24 Oct 2010, at 23:10, marc garrett <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Andreas, > > I'm sure you knew ;-) > > ----- > > Could I just ask you a question? > > Is your name also 'Agam (A.) Andreas' ? > > what name should I use in the future? > > Much thanks > > marc >> Hi Marc >> >> Thanks for your clarification of the subject, I was already wondering >> what it was all about, now I am informed >> >> Thanks again >> >> Andreas Maria Jacobs >> >> w: http://www.nictoglobe.com >> w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl >> >> "Politics is the Architecture of Death" >> >> On 24 Oct 2010, at 18:07, marc garrett >> <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Rob & all, >>> >>> Thanks for the link to the P2P (Foundation) conversation between >>> Michel >>> Bauwens & Geert Lovink. >>> >>> Lovink's relationship with 'free culture' comes from a micro >>> perspective, influenced by connections built around an active >>> respect >>> for the idea, and possibly a personal reliance on structures which >>> rely >>> on frameworks dedicated, in supporting some form of 'official' >>> authority. This creates a less socially grounded and intuitive >>> understanding of why people are engaged in such things. >>> >>> Things cannot always be defined through theory or through >>> 'officially' >>> culturalized platforms or accepted intellectually condoned >>> hierarchies >>> alone. To be truly engaged, one has to cross over into different >>> elements of being, connecting and touching - not necessarily because >>> it's part of one's practice, but because it relates to everyday life >>> and >>> experience as well. Thankfully, such things can't be measured, >>> packaged >>> made into chewable concepts so easily. Where ever we happen stand to >>> stand in the scheme of things, we only possess part of the picture, >>> not >>> the whole thing. >>> >>> Yet, what this situation communicates to me, is that many out there >>> feel >>> they know or have a particular advantage of the bigger picture >>> because >>> of their positions in relation to their privilege, rather than their >>> actual engagement in a field such as free culture. And what >>> theorists >>> want, really does not matter - it's what people want that matters >>> precisely because they are the users the community. >>> >>> "At the moment the amateurs are blocking the careers of entire >>> generations of young professionals. With this the rich knowledge of >>> professions is threatened to disappear (for instance those doing >>> investigative journalism). We have to stop this talent drain and not >>> create economies that have to live off charity. Free networks should >>> take themselves more serious. The first step to get there should >>> be to >>> critically investigate the ‘ideology of the free’. New forms of >>> production, as you call it, cost money. We need to circulate money >>> so >>> that it can flow into those circles that have taken up the task to >>> seriously construct tomorrow’s tools.” >>> (http://www.digicult.it/digimag/article.asp?id=1148)" >>> >>> I disagree with the idea that amateurs are the enemy. Free culture >>> is >>> dictated and driven by amateurs' and their very human behaviours, >>> just >>> as much as by anyone else. This may trouble those who wish to >>> control it. >>> >>> The other thing is that, critical engagement does not always have to >>> be >>> defined through specific groups of people. Creating a professional >>> class >>> may sound like a pretty decent idea to some, but for something to >>> really >>> have social significance and a cultural life, it needs to be allowed >>> to >>> live beyond a hermetically sealed vacuum. >>> >>> Having said all this, I feel that is Geert as an individual does >>> propose >>> some interesting arguments. What he proposes may not necessarily sit >>> right, but they address important questions around how and why >>> things >>> 'should' always be free. If we want something to be free, perhaps >>> the >>> motives and ideas need to be explored more regularly or more deeply, >>> rather than everyone just accepting and adopting the idea of it as >>> an >>> absolute. It's a bit like accepting democracy without knowing why >>> its >>> there in the first place - perhaps we just need to remind ourselves >>> why >>> we have it. >>> >>> Wishing you well. >>> >>> marc >>> >>> >>>> "While such a critique is of course welcome and necessary, I was >>>> rather >>>> shocked in Venice when I listened to such a lecture, to discover >>>> that >>>> Geert Lovink’s considers the free culture movement as an enem >>>> y, be >>>> cause >>>> it advocates everything to be free. Geert presented the following >>>> expressions of free as ‘the enemy’: the freeconomic ideas of Ch >>>> ris >>>> Anderson (who in fact, also does not advocate everything to be >>>> free, but >>>> rather explains its economic rationale in a era of very cheap >>>> digital >>>> reproducibility), the Oxcars free culture festival (which pays it >>>> artists!), and the Barcelona charter on digital rights. This >>>> equation is >>>> of course entirely untrue, and I was surprised that someone of Gee >>>> rt’s >>>> stature, could make the classic mistake between free speech and >>>> free >>>> beer, which has been clarified ages ago." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/on-the-difference-between-free-speech-and-free-beer-free-culture-as-people-want-to-be-free/2010/05/25 >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
