Hi Andreas, Thanks for your patience, I will call you Andreas if you don't mind.
I have been enjoying looking at the many art, theory & projects on Nictoglobe - it's a great archive. Such as Darko Fritz's 204_NO_CONTENT http://www.nictoglobe.com/new/ainac2010/darko.html I noticed that you were also involved in BBS culture like myself :-) wishing you well. marc > Hi Marc > > Yes, thanks for asking > > My name is > > Andreas Maria Jacobs > > But I use also (since 1985) > > Agam Andreas or A. Andreas > > You can call me Andreas or Agam whatever you prefer > > Sorry for any possible confusion > > > Andreas Maria Jacobs > > w: http://www.nictoglobe.com > w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl > > On 24 Oct 2010, at 23:10, marc garrett <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Andreas, >> >> I'm sure you knew ;-) >> >> ----- >> >> Could I just ask you a question? >> >> Is your name also 'Agam (A.) Andreas' ? >> >> what name should I use in the future? >> >> Much thanks >> >> marc >>> Hi Marc >>> >>> Thanks for your clarification of the subject, I was already wondering >>> what it was all about, now I am informed >>> >>> Thanks again >>> >>> Andreas Maria Jacobs >>> >>> w: http://www.nictoglobe.com >>> w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl >>> >>> "Politics is the Architecture of Death" >>> >>> On 24 Oct 2010, at 18:07, marc garrett >>> <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi Rob & all, >>>> >>>> Thanks for the link to the P2P (Foundation) conversation between >>>> Michel >>>> Bauwens & Geert Lovink. >>>> >>>> Lovink's relationship with 'free culture' comes from a micro >>>> perspective, influenced by connections built around an active >>>> respect >>>> for the idea, and possibly a personal reliance on structures which >>>> rely >>>> on frameworks dedicated, in supporting some form of 'official' >>>> authority. This creates a less socially grounded and intuitive >>>> understanding of why people are engaged in such things. >>>> >>>> Things cannot always be defined through theory or through >>>> 'officially' >>>> culturalized platforms or accepted intellectually condoned >>>> hierarchies >>>> alone. To be truly engaged, one has to cross over into different >>>> elements of being, connecting and touching - not necessarily because >>>> it's part of one's practice, but because it relates to everyday life >>>> and >>>> experience as well. Thankfully, such things can't be measured, >>>> packaged >>>> made into chewable concepts so easily. Where ever we happen stand to >>>> stand in the scheme of things, we only possess part of the picture, >>>> not >>>> the whole thing. >>>> >>>> Yet, what this situation communicates to me, is that many out there >>>> feel >>>> they know or have a particular advantage of the bigger picture >>>> because >>>> of their positions in relation to their privilege, rather than their >>>> actual engagement in a field such as free culture. And what >>>> theorists >>>> want, really does not matter - it's what people want that matters >>>> precisely because they are the users the community. >>>> >>>> "At the moment the amateurs are blocking the careers of entire >>>> generations of young professionals. With this the rich knowledge of >>>> professions is threatened to disappear (for instance those doing >>>> investigative journalism). We have to stop this talent drain and not >>>> create economies that have to live off charity. Free networks should >>>> take themselves more serious. The first step to get there should >>>> be to >>>> critically investigate the ‘ideology of the free’. New forms of >>>> production, as you call it, cost money. We need to circulate money >>>> so >>>> that it can flow into those circles that have taken up the task to >>>> seriously construct tomorrow’s tools.” >>>> (http://www.digicult.it/digimag/article.asp?id=1148)" >>>> >>>> I disagree with the idea that amateurs are the enemy. Free culture >>>> is >>>> dictated and driven by amateurs' and their very human behaviours, >>>> just >>>> as much as by anyone else. This may trouble those who wish to >>>> control it. >>>> >>>> The other thing is that, critical engagement does not always have to >>>> be >>>> defined through specific groups of people. Creating a professional >>>> class >>>> may sound like a pretty decent idea to some, but for something to >>>> really >>>> have social significance and a cultural life, it needs to be allowed >>>> to >>>> live beyond a hermetically sealed vacuum. >>>> >>>> Having said all this, I feel that is Geert as an individual does >>>> propose >>>> some interesting arguments. What he proposes may not necessarily sit >>>> right, but they address important questions around how and why >>>> things >>>> 'should' always be free. If we want something to be free, perhaps >>>> the >>>> motives and ideas need to be explored more regularly or more deeply, >>>> rather than everyone just accepting and adopting the idea of it as >>>> an >>>> absolute. It's a bit like accepting democracy without knowing why >>>> its >>>> there in the first place - perhaps we just need to remind ourselves >>>> why >>>> we have it. >>>> >>>> Wishing you well. >>>> >>>> marc >>>> >>>> >>>>> "While such a critique is of course welcome and necessary, I was >>>>> rather >>>>> shocked in Venice when I listened to such a lecture, to discover >>>>> that >>>>> Geert Lovink’s considers the free culture movement as an enem >>>>> y, be >>>>> cause >>>>> it advocates everything to be free. Geert presented the following >>>>> expressions of free as ‘the enemy’: the freeconomic ideas of Ch >>>>> ris >>>>> Anderson (who in fact, also does not advocate everything to be >>>>> free, but >>>>> rather explains its economic rationale in a era of very cheap >>>>> digital >>>>> reproducibility), the Oxcars free culture festival (which pays it >>>>> artists!), and the Barcelona charter on digital rights. This >>>>> equation is >>>>> of course entirely untrue, and I was surprised that someone of Gee >>>>> rt’s >>>>> stature, could make the classic mistake between free speech and >>>>> free >>>>> beer, which has been clarified ages ago." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/on-the-difference-between-free-speech-and-free-beer-free-culture-as-people-want-to-be-free/2010/05/25 >>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
