> Its my first time in Barcelona > Anyone been there before? > Any recommendations?
Hello, This is a good vegan restaurant, with cheap, tasty food: http://www.sincarne.net/castellano/restaurantes-vegetarianos-barcelona/juicy-jones.htm Also if you stay until the 4th Nov, there is an interesting exhibition opening at the MACBA, about television and art: http://www.macba.cat/controller.php?p_action=show_page&pagina_id=52&inst_id=27536 and there's another exhibition about TV at Arts Santa Monica: http://www.artssantamonica.cat/EXP/EXPOSICIONS/tabid/128/any/201010/language/en-US/Default.aspx#exposicio27 oh, and there'll be Martha Rosler at La Virreina, and she's also giving talks on the 28th and 29th Oct: http://www.bcn.cat/virreinacentredelaimatge/english/home.htm have fun! On 26 October 2010 06:14, Kevin Flanagan <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Michael, > > Wow so much to see I haven't been on holidays in ages I'm so excited I > think my heads going to explode. In the airport now it's early morning > flight. > > All the best > > Kevin > > > On Monday, October 25, 2010, Michael Szpakowski <[email protected]> wrote: > > Miro Foundation, Museum of Contemporary Art, Picasso Museum, Museum of > Pre-Columbian art ( across the street from the Picasso museum) and the > Tapies Foundation all great! > > > > http://www.bodegasepulveda.net/en/ubicacion.html > > is a nice place to have lunch... > > m. > > > > --- On Mon, 10/25/10, Kevin Flanagan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> From: Kevin Flanagan <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] The Telekommunist Manifesto from Dmytri > Kleiner is out now! > >> To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" < > [email protected]> > >> Date: Monday, October 25, 2010, 2:18 PM > >> Hello All, > >> > >> On the subject of Free Culture I'm on my way to Barcelona > >> for the > >> http://2010.fcforum.net/en > >> Its my first time in Barcelona > >> Anyone been there before? > >> Any recommendations? > >> > >> All the best > >> > >> Kevin > >> > >> > >> On 25 October 2010 12:26, marc garrett <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > Hi Andreas, > >> > > >> > Thanks for your patience, I will call you Andreas if > >> you don't mind. > >> > > >> > I have been enjoying looking at the many art, theory > >> & projects on > >> > Nictoglobe - it's a great archive. Such as Darko > >> Fritz's 204_NO_CONTENT > >> > http://www.nictoglobe.com/new/ainac2010/darko.html > >> > > >> > I noticed that you were also involved in BBS culture > >> like myself :-) > >> > > >> > wishing you well. > >> > > >> > marc > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Hi Marc > >> > > > >> > > Yes, thanks for asking > >> > > > >> > > My name is > >> > > > >> > > Andreas Maria Jacobs > >> > > > >> > > But I use also (since 1985) > >> > > > >> > > Agam Andreas or A. Andreas > >> > > > >> > > You can call me Andreas or Agam whatever you > >> prefer > >> > > > >> > > Sorry for any possible confusion > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Andreas Maria Jacobs > >> > > > >> > > w: http://www.nictoglobe.com > >> > > w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl > >> > > > >> > > On 24 Oct 2010, at 23:10, marc garrett < > [email protected]> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> Hi Andreas, > >> > >> > >> > >> I'm sure you knew ;-) > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- > >> > >> > >> > >> Could I just ask you a question? > >> > >> > >> > >> Is your name also 'Agam (A.) Andreas' ? > >> > >> > >> > >> what name should I use in the future? > >> > >> > >> > >> Much thanks > >> > >> > >> > >> marc > >> > >>> Hi Marc > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Thanks for your clarification of the > >> subject, I was already wondering > >> > >>> what it was all about, now I am > >> informed > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Thanks again > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Andreas Maria Jacobs > >> > >>> > >> > >>> w: http://www.nictoglobe.com > >> > >>> w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl > >> > >>> > >> > >>> "Politics is the Architecture of > >> Death" > >> > >>> > >> > >>> On 24 Oct 2010, at 18:07, marc garrett > >> > >>> <[email protected]> > >> > >>> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> Hi Rob & all, > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> Thanks for the link to the P2P > >> (Foundation) conversation between > >> > >>>> Michel > >> > >>>> Bauwens & Geert Lovink. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> Lovink's relationship with 'free > >> culture' comes from a micro > >> > >>>> perspective, influenced by > >> connections built around an active > >> > >>>> respect > >> > >>>> for the idea, and possibly a > >> personal reliance on structures which > >> > >>>> rely > >> > >>>> on frameworks dedicated, in > >> supporting some form of 'official' > >> > >>>> authority. This creates a less > >> socially grounded and intuitive > >> > >>>> understanding of why people are > >> engaged in such things. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> Things cannot always be defined > >> through theory or through > >> > >>>> 'officially' > >> > >>>> culturalized platforms or accepted > >> intellectually condoned > >> > >>>> hierarchies > >> > >>>> alone. To be truly engaged, one has > >> to cross over into different > >> > >>>> elements of being, connecting and > >> touching - not necessarily because > >> > >>>> it's part of one's practice, but > >> because it relates to everyday life > >> > >>>> and > >> > >>>> experience as well. Thankfully, > >> such things can't be measured, > >> > >>>> packaged > >> > >>>> made into chewable concepts so > >> easily. Where ever we happen stand to > >> > >>>> stand in the scheme of things, we > >> only possess part of the picture, > >> > >>>> not > >> > >>>> the whole thing. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> Yet, what this situation > >> communicates to me, is that many out there > >> > >>>> feel > >> > >>>> they know or have a particular > >> advantage of the bigger picture > >> > >>>> because > >> > >>>> of their positions in relation to > >> their privilege, rather than their > >> > >>>> actual engagement in a field such > >> as free culture. And what > >> > >>>> theorists > >> > >>>> want, really does not matter - it's > >> what people want that matters > >> > >>>> precisely because they are the > >> users the community. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> "At the moment the amateurs are > >> blocking the careers of entire > >> > >>>> generations of young professionals. > >> With this the rich knowledge of > >> > >>>> professions is threatened to > >> disappear (for instance those doing > >> > >>>> investigative journalism). We have > >> to stop this talent drain and not > >> > >>>> create economies that have to live > >> off charity. Free networks should > >> > >>>> take themselves more serious. The > >> first step to get there should > >> > >>>> be to > >> > >>>> critically investigate the > >> ‘ideology of the free’. New forms of > >> > >>>> production, as you call it, cost > >> money. We need to circulate money > >> > >>>> so > >> > >>>> that it can flow into those circles > >> that have taken up the task to > >> > >>>> seriously construct tomorrow’s > >> tools.” > >> > >>>> (http://www.digicult.it/digimag/article.asp?id=1148)" > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> I disagree with the idea that > >> amateurs are the enemy. Free culture > >> > >>>> is > >> > >>>> dictated and driven by amateurs' > >> and their very human behaviours, > >> > >>>> just > >> > >>>> as much as by anyone else. This may > >> trouble those who wish to > >> > >>>> control it. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> The other thing is that, critical > >> engagement does not always have to > >> > >>>> be > >> > >>>> defined through specific groups of > >> people. Creating a professional > >> > >>>> class > >> > >>>> may sound like a pretty decent idea > >> to some, but for something to > >> > >>>> really > >> > >>>> have social significance and a > >> cultural life, it needs to be allowed > >> > >>>> to > >> > >>>> live beyond a hermetically sealed > >> vacuum. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> Having said all this, I feel that > >> is Geert as an individual does > >> > >>>> propose > >> > >>>> some interesting arguments. What he > >> proposes may not necessarily sit > >> > >>>> right, but they address important > >> questions around how and why > >> > >>>> things > >> > >>>> 'should' always be free. If we want > >> something to be free, perhaps > >> > >>>> the > >> > >>>> motives and ideas need to be > >> explored more regularly or more deeply, > >> > >>>> rather than everyone just accepting > >> and adopting the idea of it as > >> > >>>> an > >> > >>>> absolute. It's a bit like accepting > >> democracy without knowing why > >> > >>>> its > >> > >>>> there in the first place - perhaps > >> we just need to remind ourselves > >> > >>>> why > >> > >>>> we have it. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> Wishing you well. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> marc > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>>> "While such a critique is of > >> course welcome and necessary, I was > >> > >>>>> rather > >> > >>>>> shocked in Venice when I > >> listened to such a lecture, to discover > >> > >>>>> that > >> > >>>>> Geert Lovink’s considers the > >> free culture movement as an enem > >> > >>>>> y, be > >> > >>>>> cause > >> > >>>>> it advocates everything to be > >> free. Geert presented the following > >> > >>>>> expressions of free as ‘the > >> enemy’: the freeconomic ideas of Ch > >> > >>>>> ris > >> > >>>>> Anderson (who in fact, also > >> does not advocate everything to be > >> > >>>>> free, but > >> > >>>>> rather explains its economic > >> rationale in a era of very cheap > >> > >>>>> digital > >> > >>>>> reproducibility), the Oxcars > >> free culture festival (which pays it > >> > >>>>> artists!), and the Barcelona > >> charter on digital rights. This > >> > >>>>> equation is > >> > >>>>> of course entirely untrue, and > >> I was surprised that someone of Gee > >> > >>>>> rt’s > >> > >>>>> stature, could make the classic > >> mistake between free speech and > >> > >>>>> free > >> > >>>>> beer, which has been clarified > >> ages ago." > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/on-the-difference-between-free-speech-and-free-beer-free-culture-as-people-want-to-be-free/2010/05/25 > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list > >> > >>>>> [email protected] > >> > >>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >>>> NetBehaviour mailing list > >> > >>>> [email protected] > >> > >>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >>> NetBehaviour mailing list > >> > >>> [email protected] > >> > >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> NetBehaviour mailing list > >> > >> [email protected] > >> > >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > >> > >> > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > > NetBehaviour mailing list > >> > > [email protected] > >> > > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > NetBehaviour mailing list > >> > [email protected] > >> > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NetBehaviour mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > NetBehaviour mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > -- http://isabelbrison.blogspot.com/
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