Miro Foundation, Museum of Contemporary Art, Picasso Museum, Museum of Pre-Columbian art ( across the street from the Picasso museum) and the Tapies Foundation all great!
http://www.bodegasepulveda.net/en/ubicacion.html is a nice place to have lunch... m. --- On Mon, 10/25/10, Kevin Flanagan <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Kevin Flanagan <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] The Telekommunist Manifesto from Dmytri Kleiner > is out now! > To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" > <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, October 25, 2010, 2:18 PM > Hello All, > > On the subject of Free Culture I'm on my way to Barcelona > for the > http://2010.fcforum.net/en > Its my first time in Barcelona > Anyone been there before? > Any recommendations? > > All the best > > Kevin > > > On 25 October 2010 12:26, marc garrett <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Andreas, > > > > Thanks for your patience, I will call you Andreas if > you don't mind. > > > > I have been enjoying looking at the many art, theory > & projects on > > Nictoglobe - it's a great archive. Such as Darko > Fritz's 204_NO_CONTENT > > http://www.nictoglobe.com/new/ainac2010/darko.html > > > > I noticed that you were also involved in BBS culture > like myself :-) > > > > wishing you well. > > > > marc > > > > > > > > > Hi Marc > > > > > > Yes, thanks for asking > > > > > > My name is > > > > > > Andreas Maria Jacobs > > > > > > But I use also (since 1985) > > > > > > Agam Andreas or A. Andreas > > > > > > You can call me Andreas or Agam whatever you > prefer > > > > > > Sorry for any possible confusion > > > > > > > > > Andreas Maria Jacobs > > > > > > w: http://www.nictoglobe.com > > > w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl > > > > > > On 24 Oct 2010, at 23:10, marc garrett <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Hi Andreas, > > >> > > >> I'm sure you knew ;-) > > >> > > >> ----- > > >> > > >> Could I just ask you a question? > > >> > > >> Is your name also 'Agam (A.) Andreas' ? > > >> > > >> what name should I use in the future? > > >> > > >> Much thanks > > >> > > >> marc > > >>> Hi Marc > > >>> > > >>> Thanks for your clarification of the > subject, I was already wondering > > >>> what it was all about, now I am > informed > > >>> > > >>> Thanks again > > >>> > > >>> Andreas Maria Jacobs > > >>> > > >>> w: http://www.nictoglobe.com > > >>> w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl > > >>> > > >>> "Politics is the Architecture of > Death" > > >>> > > >>> On 24 Oct 2010, at 18:07, marc garrett > > >>> <[email protected]> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> Hi Rob & all, > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanks for the link to the P2P > (Foundation) conversation between > > >>>> Michel > > >>>> Bauwens & Geert Lovink. > > >>>> > > >>>> Lovink's relationship with 'free > culture' comes from a micro > > >>>> perspective, influenced by > connections built around an active > > >>>> respect > > >>>> for the idea, and possibly a > personal reliance on structures which > > >>>> rely > > >>>> on frameworks dedicated, in > supporting some form of 'official' > > >>>> authority. This creates a less > socially grounded and intuitive > > >>>> understanding of why people are > engaged in such things. > > >>>> > > >>>> Things cannot always be defined > through theory or through > > >>>> 'officially' > > >>>> culturalized platforms or accepted > intellectually condoned > > >>>> hierarchies > > >>>> alone. To be truly engaged, one has > to cross over into different > > >>>> elements of being, connecting and > touching - not necessarily because > > >>>> it's part of one's practice, but > because it relates to everyday life > > >>>> and > > >>>> experience as well. Thankfully, > such things can't be measured, > > >>>> packaged > > >>>> made into chewable concepts so > easily. Where ever we happen stand to > > >>>> stand in the scheme of things, we > only possess part of the picture, > > >>>> not > > >>>> the whole thing. > > >>>> > > >>>> Yet, what this situation > communicates to me, is that many out there > > >>>> feel > > >>>> they know or have a particular > advantage of the bigger picture > > >>>> because > > >>>> of their positions in relation to > their privilege, rather than their > > >>>> actual engagement in a field such > as free culture. And what > > >>>> theorists > > >>>> want, really does not matter - it's > what people want that matters > > >>>> precisely because they are the > users the community. > > >>>> > > >>>> "At the moment the amateurs are > blocking the careers of entire > > >>>> generations of young professionals. > With this the rich knowledge of > > >>>> professions is threatened to > disappear (for instance those doing > > >>>> investigative journalism). We have > to stop this talent drain and not > > >>>> create economies that have to live > off charity. Free networks should > > >>>> take themselves more serious. The > first step to get there should > > >>>> be to > > >>>> critically investigate the > ‘ideology of the free’. New forms of > > >>>> production, as you call it, cost > money. We need to circulate money > > >>>> so > > >>>> that it can flow into those circles > that have taken up the task to > > >>>> seriously construct tomorrow’s > tools.” > > >>>> (http://www.digicult.it/digimag/article.asp?id=1148)" > > >>>> > > >>>> I disagree with the idea that > amateurs are the enemy. Free culture > > >>>> is > > >>>> dictated and driven by amateurs' > and their very human behaviours, > > >>>> just > > >>>> as much as by anyone else. This may > trouble those who wish to > > >>>> control it. > > >>>> > > >>>> The other thing is that, critical > engagement does not always have to > > >>>> be > > >>>> defined through specific groups of > people. Creating a professional > > >>>> class > > >>>> may sound like a pretty decent idea > to some, but for something to > > >>>> really > > >>>> have social significance and a > cultural life, it needs to be allowed > > >>>> to > > >>>> live beyond a hermetically sealed > vacuum. > > >>>> > > >>>> Having said all this, I feel that > is Geert as an individual does > > >>>> propose > > >>>> some interesting arguments. What he > proposes may not necessarily sit > > >>>> right, but they address important > questions around how and why > > >>>> things > > >>>> 'should' always be free. If we want > something to be free, perhaps > > >>>> the > > >>>> motives and ideas need to be > explored more regularly or more deeply, > > >>>> rather than everyone just accepting > and adopting the idea of it as > > >>>> an > > >>>> absolute. It's a bit like accepting > democracy without knowing why > > >>>> its > > >>>> there in the first place - perhaps > we just need to remind ourselves > > >>>> why > > >>>> we have it. > > >>>> > > >>>> Wishing you well. > > >>>> > > >>>> marc > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> "While such a critique is of > course welcome and necessary, I was > > >>>>> rather > > >>>>> shocked in Venice when I > listened to such a lecture, to discover > > >>>>> that > > >>>>> Geert Lovink’s considers the > free culture movement as an enem > > >>>>> y, be > > >>>>> cause > > >>>>> it advocates everything to be > free. Geert presented the following > > >>>>> expressions of free as ‘the > enemy’: the freeconomic ideas of Ch > > >>>>> ris > > >>>>> Anderson (who in fact, also > does not advocate everything to be > > >>>>> free, but > > >>>>> rather explains its economic > rationale in a era of very cheap > > >>>>> digital > > >>>>> reproducibility), the Oxcars > free culture festival (which pays it > > >>>>> artists!), and the Barcelona > charter on digital rights. This > > >>>>> equation is > > >>>>> of course entirely untrue, and > I was surprised that someone of Gee > > >>>>> rt’s > > >>>>> stature, could make the classic > mistake between free speech and > > >>>>> free > > >>>>> beer, which has been clarified > ages ago." > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/on-the-difference-between-free-speech-and-free-beer-free-culture-as-people-want-to-be-free/2010/05/25 > > >>>> > > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ > > >>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list > > >>>>> [email protected] > > >>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > > >>>> NetBehaviour mailing list > > >>>> [email protected] > > >>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > > >>> NetBehaviour mailing list > > >>> [email protected] > > >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> NetBehaviour mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > NetBehaviour mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NetBehaviour mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
