On Sunday 22 Sep 2002 3:37 pm, you wrote:
> On Sunday September 22 2002 05:16 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Thursday 19 Sep 2002 8:56 pm, you wrote:
> > > On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 09:46:37 -0500
> > >
> > > Marcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > lilo append mem=nopentium
> >
> > Charles, could you tell me more about this?  Is this something that
> > all of us using Athlons/Durons should be using?  Obviously this is
> > there to avoid specific problems, what are they?
>
>     Altho all chipsets and processors have bugs (errata), any
> manufacturer, AMD, Intel, Cyrix, SiS, VIA, etc., the best way to avoid
> Athlon or Duron problems is to _only_ use motherboards and power
> supplies that are recommended by AMD
> http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348,0
>0.html
>
>     That link is for XP's, but there's similar links for Tbirds and
> Durons. I suspect Marcia's problem probly starts with the PSU and/or
> motherboard. Ram quality is another likely culprit. Ram performance and
> reliability is greatly affected by the quality of the mobo and PSU tho.
> So even very good ram mght have problems on a marginal mobo/PSU.
> 'Course overheating is always a suspect.
>
>     FWIW, I've had a 1.4 Tbird oc'd to 1.55 with an AMD approved mobo
> and PSU for over a year an a half. Never used the nopentium option,
> never had any problems. GeF2 w/64mb's usin the open source XFree86
> driver. The nopentium parameter is to limit the page size requests from
> system ram for the AGP card.  If the video card has 16mb ram or more
> onboard, the system ram probly will never, or rarely be used anyhow.
> If system ram is being used by the Vcard, and causing problems, one
> quick and dirty way fix is to set the AGP aperature in bios to 4mb.
> Drawback is that it effectively disables AGP sidebanding and will
> somewhat decrease 3d/accel performance.
>
>    For more on the AMD/AGP issue see,
> http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Linux/35/175/7626960/
>    Note: "There *is* an Athlon/AGP issue.  This issue has
> *not* been tied to a bug with the Athlon/Duron processors."
>     ...and...
> "Our conclusion is that the operating system is creating coherency
> problems within the system by creating cacheable translation to AGP
> GART-mapped physical memory."
>
>    IMO, another suspect is closed source proprietary drivers. As I said,
> even on a highly oc'd, hot system, I've not had any problems without
> nopentium usin the openXFree86-4.2.1 source driver which BTW, now
> provides some 3d/accel support for nvidia cards. XFree86-4.2.1 included
> with Mdk 9.0.

Thank you - most helpful.

Anne

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