On Sat, 25 May 2002, Roger Sherman wrote: > On Sat, 25 May 2002, Dale Huckeby wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, 25 May 2002, Damian G wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 25 May 2002 11:22:06 -0500 (CDT) > > > Dale Huckeby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > This is my first post to the list. Can anyone tell me how to install Gnome > > > > and Kde, but especially Gnome, without having Mandrake_Desk shoved down my > > > > throat. I can't even install Midnight Commander without it, for Chrissakes! > > > > This is for 8.1. If I can't get my desktop to be MY desktop, I'm going back > > > > to 7.2, which unlike 8.1 is lean and mean, or to another distro. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dale Huckeby > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mandrake desk? wth are you talking about? > > > > > > if you are having a lot of trouble installing KDE by yourself ( BTW there > > > are howto's Everywhere! try any mandrake related site...), > > > > > > try booting the installation CD, make no changes to the filesystems, > > > choose only KDE and GNOME related packages, and install... > > > > > > HTH > > > > I appreciate the thought, but no, it doesn't. I'm NOT having trouble > > installing KDE all by myself, or Gnome either, for that matter. I've > > installed 7.2 dozens of times and 8.1 four or five. The problem is the > > way Mandrake 8.1 tries to take over the desktop. With 7.2, in Gnome, > > I could drag and drop icons from the menus to the desktop, a very nice > > feature. With 8.1 I can't. When it loads I can see the blue background > > screen, then my wallpaper covers it, then another blue screen covers > > that, then my wallpaper again covers the whole mess, this time with the > > Mandrake icons rather than the ones I'm used to. And these icons can't > > be changed, at least not by the methods I'm used to, nor can I drag and > > drop from the menus. I'm assuming, perhaps erroneously, that the > > difference between this and the previous behavior is the Mandrake_Desk > > package, which didn't exist in 7.2. There are other aggravations, too, > > but I'll spare you. > > > > Regards, > > Dale Huckeby > > > Have you thought about trying 8.2? I bought the 7.2 powerpack several years ago. I turned my daughter and son-in-law on to Linux, they bought the 8.1 poerpack, and I burned copies and installed from that. But having just moved and not having a job yet, I don't have the wherewithall to buy 8.2, and I'm a little chary of the download time and possible difficulties in upgrading to 8.2. But yes, it's still an option that I should consider. Thanks for mentioning it. I hope it fixes some of 8.1's bugs, such as refusing to give me the console resolution I ask for during setup, or even by editing the relevant GRUB file in the /boot directory. If I want 80 by 23, I can only get it by using the nonfb image. Thanks, Dale Huckeby
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