Dale Huckeby wrote:

>
>On Sat, 25 May 2002, Damian G wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 25 May 2002 11:22:06 -0500 (CDT)
>>Dale Huckeby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>  This is my first post to the list.  Can anyone tell me how to install Gnome
>>>and Kde, but especially Gnome, without having Mandrake_Desk shoved down my
>>>throat.  I can't even install Midnight Commander without it, for Chrissakes!
>>>This is for 8.1.  If I can't get my desktop to be MY desktop, I'm going back
>>>to 7.2, which unlike 8.1 is lean and mean, or to another distro.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Dale Huckeby
>>>
>>>
>>mandrake desk? wth are you talking about?
>>
>>if you are having a lot of trouble installing KDE by yourself ( BTW there
>>are howto's Everywhere! try any mandrake related site...),
>>
>>try booting the installation CD, make no changes to the filesystems,
>>choose only KDE and GNOME related packages, and install...
>>
>>HTH
>>
>
>  I appreciate the thought, but no, it doesn't.  I'm NOT having trouble
>installing KDE all by myself, or Gnome either, for that matter.  I've
>installed 7.2 dozens of times and 8.1 four or five.  The problem is the
>way Mandrake 8.1 tries to take over the desktop.  With 7.2, in Gnome,
>I could drag and drop icons from the menus to the desktop, a very nice
>feature.  With 8.1 I can't.  When it loads I can see the blue background
>screen, then my wallpaper covers it, then another blue screen covers
>that, then my wallpaper again covers the whole mess, this time with the
>Mandrake icons rather than the ones I'm used to.  And these icons can't
>be changed, at least not by the methods I'm used to, nor can I drag and
>drop from the menus.  I'm assuming, perhaps erroneously, that the
>difference between this and the previous behavior is the Mandrake_Desk
>package, which didn't exist in 7.2.  There are other aggravations, too,
>but I'll spare you.
>
>Regards,
>Dale Huckeby
>
>
>
>
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Ummm, remember what happens  in 7.2 if you open some GNOME programs 
under KDE???  You watch GNOME icons invade your desktop!  In 8.0 that 
was resolved, (almost) but opening Nautilus and calling for help from WM 
or KDE again caused the invasion  (OK if you did not invoke help)

But you can run without Mandrake Desk if you want, and you can use the 
local menu editors, too (just NEVER use the Mandrake one).  The 
operative command is

urpme mandrake_desk

It will likely take the Mandrake icons with it, but if it does not, you 
can delete them and they won;'t come back.

Civileme




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