Currently they use hydrocarbons. But water can easily be converted into oxygen and hydrogen. Can be solar powered too. Honda has a "gas" pump setup @ their R&D test track. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
-----Original Message----- From: paul annen <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:01:12 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Possible engine upgrade? fuel cells are expencive because the membranes have to be platinum, and where can you find a good reliable source of hydrogen? On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: > Isn't that the purpose of a hydrogen fuel cell? To turn gas into > electricity. Would this be more efficient? I was thinking more along the > lines of using it as an engine. > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > ------------------------------ > *From: * paul annen <[email protected]> > *Sender: * [email protected] > *Date: *Sat, 9 Apr 2011 10:35:12 -0400 > *To: *<[email protected]> > *ReplyTo: * [email protected] > *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Possible engine upgrade? > > if it was coupled to a generator and the actual drive was electric, then > there would be no need for a clutch or trans... but again, it still burns > fuel... > > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]>wrote: > >> It would still need a clutch assembly of some sort in order to disconnect >> the power. And it uses dry bearings, that I'm sure need replacing. Even >> simple jet engines need periodic servicing, I have to imagine these would >> too. It looks like it functions similar to a torque converter but with the >> housing bolted to the chassis. In a direct drive config I can't imagine it >> could produce much torque. Transmissions would probably be used for high >> load applications. >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Joey Kelley <[email protected]> >> Sender: [email protected] >> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 23:06:54 >> To: <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Possible engine upgrade? >> >> I'm with Kyle on this one - >> I'm very much a 'believe it when I see it' type of person. >> Not that the idea isn't cool - but it does have some obvious problems >> - making it work for one. Another would be the complexity of this sort >> of design - those of us who literally work on bikes and other things >> in our back yards would be virtually extinct (yes I realize that with >> the modern computers in most cars, we are already to a large degree) >> that having been said - the model T was complex compared to a horse. >> Speaking of revolutionary - anyone else ever drive a model >> T? Its quite the experience! >> -Joey >> >> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I remember reading about something like this 10 yrs ago. It seemed >> > promising then but I never heard anymore about it. Basically it's easy >> > to talk about this revolutionary thing you invented, it's another >> > thing to make it work. >> > >> > On Friday, April 8, 2011, Lie Njie < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42460541/ns/technology_and_science-innovation/ >> >> >> >> Anyone more mechanically inclined than me have any idea if this will >> revolutionize motorcycle motors like they claim? 4x fuel efficiency >> increase with "no transmission, crankshaft, pistons, valves, fuel >> compression, cooling systems or fluids" sounds useful to me... >> >> >> >> Peace, >> >> +Lie >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> . >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > >> > -Kyle >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> -Joey Kelley >> JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online >> JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! >> JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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