yes, you could make your own "gas station" but electrolyzing your own would
make a large pwer bill at hime, and the solar tech isent up to par yet.. and
hondas R&D track is a little far for me to go for a fillup...

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:

> Currently they use hydrocarbons. But water can easily be converted into
> oxygen and hydrogen. Can be solar powered too. Honda has a "gas" pump setup
> @ their R&D test track.
>
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>
> fuel cells are expencive because the membranes have to be platinum, and
> where can you find a good reliable source of hydrogen?
>
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Isn't that the purpose of a hydrogen fuel cell? To turn gas into
>> electricity. Would this be more efficient? I was thinking more along the
>> lines of using it as an engine.
>>
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>> *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Possible engine upgrade?
>>
>> if it was coupled to a generator and the actual drive was electric, then
>> there would be no need for a clutch or trans... but again, it still burns
>> fuel...
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> It would still need a clutch assembly of some sort in order to disconnect
>>> the power. And it uses dry bearings, that I'm sure need replacing. Even
>>> simple jet engines need periodic servicing, I have to imagine these would
>>> too. It looks like it functions similar to a torque converter but with the
>>> housing bolted to the chassis. In a direct drive config I can't imagine it
>>> could produce much torque. Transmissions would probably be used for high
>>> load applications.
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joey Kelley <[email protected]>
>>> Sender: [email protected]
>>> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 23:06:54
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Possible engine upgrade?
>>>
>>> I'm with Kyle on this one -
>>>          I'm very much a 'believe it when I see it' type of person.
>>> Not that the idea isn't cool - but it does have some obvious problems
>>> - making it work for one. Another would be the complexity of this sort
>>> of design - those of us who literally work on bikes and other things
>>> in our back yards would be virtually extinct (yes I realize that with
>>> the modern computers in most cars, we are already to a large degree)
>>> that having been said - the model T was complex compared to a horse.
>>>          Speaking of revolutionary - anyone else ever drive a model
>>> T? Its quite the experience!
>>>          -Joey
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > I remember reading about something like this 10 yrs ago. It seemed
>>> > promising then but I never heard anymore about it. Basically it's easy
>>> > to talk about this revolutionary thing you invented, it's another
>>> > thing to make it work.
>>> >
>>> > On Friday, April 8, 2011, Lie Njie <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42460541/ns/technology_and_science-innovation/
>>> >>
>>> >> Anyone more mechanically inclined than me have any idea if this will
>>> revolutionize motorcycle motors like they claim?  4x fuel efficiency
>>> increase with "no transmission, crankshaft, pistons, valves, fuel
>>> compression, cooling systems or fluids" sounds useful to me...
>>> >>
>>> >> Peace,
>>> >>   +Lie
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