Is it just me, or does Jay's latest video make more sense?
http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/at-the-garage/custom-built/1963-chrysler-turbine-ultimate-edition/

-Kyle


On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:

> I see this turning into an oil thread as soon as Stanley reads it. I have
> seen hydrogen generators operating on low current (car battery). Obviously
> you cannot convert energy with out loss, but a slow trickle conversion off
> of solar panels is quite possible and if augmented with grid power, it would
> be damn near free. The problem with hydrogen generators is the size required
> to produce an amount of gas sufficient to run an engine. They can be used to
> augment one though. At least that is my understanding of the current tech.
>
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> yes, you could make your own "gas station" but electrolyzing your own would
> make a large pwer bill at hime, and the solar tech isent up to par yet.. and
> hondas R&D track is a little far for me to go for a fillup...
>
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Currently they use hydrocarbons. But water can easily be converted into
>> oxygen and hydrogen. Can be solar powered too. Honda has a "gas" pump setup
>> @ their R&D test track.
>>
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>>
>> fuel cells are expencive because the membranes have to be platinum, and
>> where can you find a good reliable source of hydrogen?
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Isn't that the purpose of a hydrogen fuel cell? To turn gas into
>>> electricity. Would this be more efficient? I was thinking more along the
>>> lines of using it as an engine.
>>>
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>>>
>>> if it was coupled to a generator and the actual drive was electric, then
>>> there would be no need for a clutch or trans... but again, it still burns
>>> fuel...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> It would still need a clutch assembly of some sort in order to
>>>> disconnect the power. And it uses dry bearings, that I'm sure need
>>>> replacing. Even simple jet engines need periodic servicing, I have to
>>>> imagine these would too. It looks like it functions similar to a torque
>>>> converter but with the housing bolted to the chassis. In a direct drive
>>>> config I can't imagine it could produce much torque. Transmissions would
>>>> probably be used for high load applications.
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Joey Kelley <[email protected]>
>>>> Sender: [email protected]
>>>> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 23:06:54
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Possible engine upgrade?
>>>>
>>>> I'm with Kyle on this one -
>>>>          I'm very much a 'believe it when I see it' type of person.
>>>> Not that the idea isn't cool - but it does have some obvious problems
>>>> - making it work for one. Another would be the complexity of this sort
>>>> of design - those of us who literally work on bikes and other things
>>>> in our back yards would be virtually extinct (yes I realize that with
>>>> the modern computers in most cars, we are already to a large degree)
>>>> that having been said - the model T was complex compared to a horse.
>>>>          Speaking of revolutionary - anyone else ever drive a model
>>>> T? Its quite the experience!
>>>>          -Joey
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > I remember reading about something like this 10 yrs ago. It seemed
>>>> > promising then but I never heard anymore about it. Basically it's easy
>>>> > to talk about this revolutionary thing you invented, it's another
>>>> > thing to make it work.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Friday, April 8, 2011, Lie Njie <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42460541/ns/technology_and_science-innovation/
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Anyone more mechanically inclined than me have any idea if this will
>>>> revolutionize motorcycle motors like they claim?  4x fuel efficiency
>>>> increase with "no transmission, crankshaft, pistons, valves, fuel
>>>> compression, cooling systems or fluids" sounds useful to me...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Peace,
>>>> >>   +Lie
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