Producing 1.5-2 L of hydrogen using only 2.7 amps sounds extremely difficult, if not impossible. Usually what happens is that you need as much energy to produce the HHO as the one you save with the extra boost, which makes sense from the point of view of simple energy conservation laws. If what you are saying is true, you should be millionaire by now. Also, if you are afraid of the oil companies kidnapping and disappearing you by going public, why would you come public here?
I found that the best fuel savers are driving small cars when I can, and keep it clean, well maintained, with the right pressure on your tires, fresh oil and good gasoline. And yes, ride your bike every time you can. Javier. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:12 PM, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]>wrote: > As many of you know, I make my own hydrogen on the go and sell the > generators. Mine produce about 1.5 - 2 liters a minute of hydrogen and > oxygen. I have seen, in my research, a generator which makes enough > hydrogen (and oxygen) on the fly to power the machine producing the stuff. I > have the plans for it, and there are those who have made one for themselvs. > The complete kit includes a tank for water that sits in the trunk. It will > power a car about 800 miles on a tank of water. > The Brown Gas generator I make increases the mileage from somewhere around > 30% to over 60%. I have achieved 62% myself with one in a Dodge Dynasty > with a 3.0 V6. > Not only that, it cleaned out the engine, which was filthy when I bought it > (oil turned black only 500 miles after I changed it the first time, at > 87,000 miles), and restored more than the original power, because it would > spin the tires if I gave it too much throttle on wet pavement, and sometimes > on dry as well. > I have been doing this for going on six years now. My generator design > only uses 2.7 amps, and I can make it use even less to supplement a > Nighthawk, with its weak electrical system. That's because it requires less > production > Making the system that produces enough gas without needing excessive > amperage, to power a car will be next for me. I think there is not much > more I can do to improve my generator, without making it more complicated > electronically. > The high-volume system requires electronics, and I am a bit slow in that > area at this time, or I would be making them quietly under the radar. > Oil/petroleum companies don't want to lose their cash cow and they have no > scruples. People have disappeared for not selling out and have been > arrested and thrown in jail for going public with a "look what- I've - done" > sort of thing. > The patent office is rife with patents for fuel saving devices. I agree > with one dude who refused to patent his idea, but made it available and > sells plans instead, or the finished product, if you'd rather. I decided > not to patent mine. Doing so is expensive, and even more expensive to fight > copycats in court - *when* you find them. I have read stories about > that. Maybe Coke has the money, but I don't, and neither do most mom-and > pops that are trying to make a buck (incidentally - Coke and Pepsi both keep > the price of their products a few -*very* few - cents above cost, to keep > out the competition). > So: with the high volume hydrogen generator, one wouldn't need a "gas > station. " Few trips consume the amount of water it takes to do most daily > driving, let alone cross - country trips. Fill up at home, fill up again > when you get there for the return trip. Going more than 800 miles? Ask > someone to let you use theier garden hose to fill your tank; or, stop at a > conventional gas station and use their water. Most places it's still free. > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* paul annen <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Sat, April 9, 2011 10:22:48 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Possible engine upgrade? > > yes, you could make your own "gas station" but electrolyzing your own would > make a large pwer bill at hime, and the solar tech isent up to par yet.. and > hondas R&D track is a little far for me to go for a fillup... > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Currently they use hydrocarbons. But water can easily be converted into >> oxygen and hydrogen. Can be solar powered too. Honda has a "gas" pump setup >> @ their R&D test track. >> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *paul annen <[email protected]> >> *Sender: *[email protected] >> *Date: *Sat, 9 Apr 2011 11:01:12 -0400 >> *To: *<[email protected]> >> *ReplyTo: *[email protected] >> *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Possible engine upgrade? >> >> fuel cells are expencive because the membranes have to be platinum, and >> where can you find a good reliable source of hydrogen? >> >> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Isn't that the purpose of a hydrogen fuel cell? To turn gas into >>> electricity. Would this be more efficient? I was thinking more along the >>> lines of using it as an engine. >>> >>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *paul annen <[email protected]> >>> *Sender: *[email protected] >>> *Date: *Sat, 9 Apr 2011 10:35:12 -0400 >>> *To: *<[email protected]> >>> *ReplyTo: *[email protected] >>> *Subject: *Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Possible engine upgrade? >>> >>> if it was coupled to a generator and the actual drive was electric, then >>> there would be no need for a clutch or trans... but again, it still burns >>> fuel... >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> It would still need a clutch assembly of some sort in order to >>>> disconnect the power. And it uses dry bearings, that I'm sure need >>>> replacing. Even simple jet engines need periodic servicing, I have to >>>> imagine these would too. It looks like it functions similar to a torque >>>> converter but with the housing bolted to the chassis. In a direct drive >>>> config I can't imagine it could produce much torque. Transmissions would >>>> probably be used for high load applications. >>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Joey Kelley <[email protected]> >>>> Sender: [email protected] >>>> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 23:06:54 >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Possible engine upgrade? >>>> >>>> I'm with Kyle on this one - >>>> I'm very much a 'believe it when I see it' type of person. >>>> Not that the idea isn't cool - but it does have some obvious problems >>>> - making it work for one. Another would be the complexity of this sort >>>> of design - those of us who literally work on bikes and other things >>>> in our back yards would be virtually extinct (yes I realize that with >>>> the modern computers in most cars, we are already to a large degree) >>>> that having been said - the model T was complex compared to a horse. >>>> Speaking of revolutionary - anyone else ever drive a model >>>> T? Its quite the experience! >>>> -Joey >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > I remember reading about something like this 10 yrs ago. It seemed >>>> > promising then but I never heard anymore about it. Basically it's easy >>>> > to talk about this revolutionary thing you invented, it's another >>>> > thing to make it work. >>>> > >>>> > On Friday, April 8, 2011, Lie Njie < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42460541/ns/technology_and_science-innovation/ >>>> >> >>>> >> Anyone more mechanically inclined than me have any idea if this will >>>> revolutionize motorcycle motors like they claim? 4x fuel efficiency >>>> increase with "no transmission, crankshaft, pistons, valves, fuel >>>> compression, cooling systems or fluids" sounds useful to me... >>>> >> >>>> >> Peace, >>>> >> +Lie >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>> >> To post to this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> >> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > >>>> > -Kyle >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>> > To post to this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -Joey Kelley >>>> JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online >>>> JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! >>>> JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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