On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 03:29:23PM -0700, johansen-osdev at sun.com wrote:
> > The issue is when to force de-cloaking.
> 
> I'm not interested in forcing anyone to be open.

But our CEO seems to be.  Clearly there may be exceptions.  For
encumbered source there have to be.

> If a project wants to become open and be an endorsed OpenSolaris
> Project, then what is the rationale for having closed review?  I'm still
> really confused about this.

Rationale for being closed up until _some_ point in the process have
been given.  Anything from having to wait for legal review to wanting to
wait for an opportune, Marketing-wise, moment -- the former being
somewhat objective while the latter is entirely subjective.

So back to the possible times at which a project that wants to integrate
into OpenSolaris needs to be open.  It is not at all obvious to me that
there is any way to force such projects to be open at any point earlier
than (a), when any ARC cases are _filed_ (see my previous post), nor
that we should want to force them to be open before then.  So, really,
we're talking about selecting any of (a), (b) or (c).  I'm for (a) or
(b), would settle for (c) (I know, that's no way to negotiate).

Other open organizations have to grapple with this too.  For example,
the IETF cannot force anyone to submit an Internet-Draft much sooner
than a fairly short period of time prior to requesting AD sponsorship to
take the I-D through the standards publication process, and anyone can
request publication of an I-D as an Informational RFC pretty much
immediately; but ADs and the IESG can always reject them.

Nico
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