For the record:
- New Atlanta's revenues and profits for 2009 have already exceeded
our totals for 2008, largely driven by increases in BlueDragon sales
over the past year, as I've previously documented on my blog:
http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm/2009/8/3/New-Atlanta-and-BlueDragon-continue-strong-sales-growth-in-Q209
Over the past twelve months, New Atlanta has acquired three of the
top ten (as measured in sales) all-time BlueDragon customers. Not a
bad feat considering the overall global economy, and the fact that
during the same time many other software companies were reporting
revenue and profit declines, and suffering through multiple rounds of
lay-offs. We have a nice queue of prospects lined up waiting for the
economy to turn around, so 2010 looks quite bright for New Atlanta and
commercial BlueDragon.
- New Atlanta--the commercial company--and OpenBD--the open source
project--are two different entities, though many of the same people
(such as myself) are involved in both. OpenBD is truly a gift, with no
strings attached (other than the GPL, which protects that gift by
making sure no one can take without contributing back). New Atlanta
does not make any money from OpenBD, and does not even attempt to;
it's not an upsell to an "Enterprise" edition, and we don't try to
sell support and consulting. Being enthusiastic about OpenBD on Google
App Engine (for example) does not in any way affect--positively or
negatively--sales of commercial BlueDragon.NET (for example). Some
people get that, and some people don't.
On Nov 23, 5:49 pm, Adrock <[email protected]> wrote:
> Here is another view:
>
> - Adobe does not tell conference providers who can and can not
> sponsor.
>
> - New Atlanta is not viewed as a threat to Adobe.
>
> - I personally want OpenBD to be successful and tried my best to show
> the community that two open source CFML engines can coexist. However,
> Vince detracted that point by commenting:
>
> "'the incredible amount of work people are putting into the (OpenBD)
> project for _zero_ financial gain' is being done primarily by New
> Atlanta employees who are being paid to work on OpenBD."
>
> Drawing a direct and active connection between New Atlanta and OpenBD
> (not to mention writing off the donated work done by community).
>
> - Based on our estimates, Railo has experienced more recent commercial
> success than New Atlanta. However, even when combined with New
> Atlanta, the impact is not great enough to warrant any concern over
> lost business. Adobe remains focused on developer acquisition from
> external communities (which is what our community demands).
>
> - As you can see from Vince's post there is still much animosity from
> New Atlanta towards Adobe. If the relations between Railo and Adobe
> are more positive, then I can only point to the personalities
> involved.
>
> In general, New Atlanta needs to stop blaming Adobe for everything
> that ills it. If a ColdFusion conference rejects a sponsor who offers
> "migration solutions from ColdFusion applications to ASP.NET", maybe
> it's because they don't want to help that cause, not because of some
> sinister Adobe plot.
>
> -Adam
> ColdFusion Product Manager at Adobe
>
> On Nov 13, 3:26 pm, Vince Bonfanti <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Here's one view:
>
> > - Adobe considers New Atlanta to be a threat to their ColdFusion business
> > due to the commercial success of BlueDragon (especially BD.NET, and due
> > to high-profile customer wins such as MySpace).
> > - Adobe associates OpenBD with New Atlanta, and therefore does not want
> > OpenBD to be successful.
> > - Adobe does not consider Railo to be a threat because they have not yet
> > had any real commercial success (at least not on the same scale as New
> > Atlanta and BlueDragon).
> > - Adobe wants to use Railo as a counter-weight to diminish the influence
> > of OpenBD (and--in their minds--New Atlanta).
>
> > There's already been some anti-Railo rhetoric from Adobe--it's fairly
> > predictable what will happen if they ever start to view Railo as a threat to
> > their ColdFusion business. I've heard through the grapevine that Adobe has
> > already threatened third-party vendors who make their products compatible
> > with Railo.
>
> > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Jason King <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > That's not cool. I wonder why Railo but not OpenBD?
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