> > The decision not to present OpenBD at Adobe conferences was made by > certain people in the OpenBD community (other than you, I don't know > who else is taking that position). >
I thought the part about it being an official Steering Committee announcement would clarify that we all agreed on what was being posted, I'll try to be clearer in the future. The announcement is something we all agreed on. The orignal decision is something that Matt and I agreed on. Vince posted that decision here and > said it was the conference organizers forcing this decision - > certainly not true in the case of cf.Objective(). I can't speak for > other conferences of course... > What Vince's beef is is Vince's beef, maybe something else happened maybe not, that is for Vince to comment on if he wants to comment. Maybe there was a misunderstanding, couldn't tell you. I'm overall chair of content for cf.Objective(). We have a three > person committee for each track coming up with suggested topics and > speakers. One of the track committees - of which you are a member - > suggested a topic of CFML on GAE and came up with three possible > speakers for the topic. We were literally on the verge of sending out > speaker invitations when you insisted that the topic be withdrawn. > Consequently cf.Objective() did not send invitations to three > potential speakers to submit on CFML on GAE. > For the record, I was not a member of the group that suggested the GAE topic. For the record in a _personal_ email that you were copied on I openly said if anyone wanted to *personally* pursue presenting on a topic I would not contest that. I specifically took issue with a committee I was associated with (even indirectly) suggesting topics that were a very sticky area for big sponsors of an event. Unlike you I am not going to publicly air personal emails with certain individuals from Adobe regarding this matter. It was said in confidence and I will respect that. If you are going to divulge personal emails Sean please share the entire story in the future and not just the aspects that speak to what you want to try to make a point about. I respect that it is hard do that but I find it a tad annoying to be slandered like that in a public forum. I would also remind folks that Open BlueDragon was launched at > cf.Objective() in May 2008: > > http://corfield.org/entry/Open_BlueDragon_at_cfObjective > > I suppose while we're on that topic everyone else should be aware that Vince had to pay full admission for a conference he did not attend to provide content for that conference. Now typically BoFs are filled by presenters so there is not "compensation" but Vince had to fight just to present at a BoF. Adam On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Sean Corfield <[email protected]>wrote: > I've commented there but I'll post here as well... > > I'm overall chair of content for cf.Objective(). We have a three > person committee for each track coming up with suggested topics and > speakers. One of the track committees - of which you are a member - > suggested a topic of CFML on GAE and came up with three possible > speakers for the topic. We were literally on the verge of sending out > speaker invitations when you insisted that the topic be withdrawn. > Consequently cf.Objective() did not send invitations to three > potential speakers to submit on CFML on GAE. > > As far as I am aware - based on discussions with Adobe about content > at cf.Objective() - they have no problem with community members > presenting on any CFML-related topic. Two members of the OpenBD > steering committee have been invited to submit talks (on over half a > dozen topics between them) and I would expect that any demos they give > as part of their talks will be run on Open BlueDragon, right? (just as > some other speakers may run their demos on Railo). > > The decision not to present OpenBD at Adobe conferences was made by > certain people in the OpenBD community (other than you, I don't know > who else is taking that position). Vince posted that decision here and > said it was the conference organizers forcing this decision - > certainly not true in the case of cf.Objective(). I can't speak for > other conferences of course... > > I would also remind folks that Open BlueDragon was launched at > cf.Objective() in May 2008: > > http://corfield.org/entry/Open_BlueDragon_at_cfObjective > > Sean > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Adam Haskell <[email protected]> wrote: > > OpenBD's Official announcement > > > > > http://cfrant.blogspot.com/2009/11/openbd-will-most-likey-not-be-presented.html > > > > Adam > > -- > Open BlueDragon Public Mailing List > http://www.openbluedragon.org/ http://twitter.com/OpenBlueDragon > mailing list - http://groups.google.com/group/openbd?hl=en > > !! save a network - please trim replies before posting !! > -- Open BlueDragon Public Mailing List http://www.openbluedragon.org/ http://twitter.com/OpenBlueDragon mailing list - http://groups.google.com/group/openbd?hl=en !! save a network - please trim replies before posting !!
