On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:51:20 -0500 Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> First of all, with OpenSolaris 2008.x, I think you'll see far more >> software packaged, and secondly, far more of it will be up-to-date. > > Yes, but will it be packaged in usable form, or will it be configured > to work on a Solaris desktop, and thus include a bunch of code - and > potential security problems - that I neither need nor want? The latter > makes 2008.x unusable as far as I'm concerned. > >> Second, given the prevalence of support contract attach rates from >> vendors such as Sun, RedHat, SuSE, and others, it's easy to conclude >> that even in the server market, pre-packaged binaries are the norm for >> most of the base operating system. > > Yeah, that's a love-hate relationship. Working on RHEL or SuSe or > similar provides a boost to my billable hours, because getting > current, reliable tools on those systems requires building them myself > - and I bill for that. It also boosts my client's IT staff's hours > since they wind up having to create build systems for those tools. > >> Finally, I stand by my comments that most users don't care about being >> able to recompile vendor software (as that would imply it is no longer >> supported by the vendor once they do so). > > True, but irrelevant. Most of the software we're talking about isn't > vendor software. In fact, limiting the repository to vendor software > is a good way to make sure the repository is never very big. That's > sort of like selling iPhones and only allowing people to run Apple's > software - and we all saw how well that worked. > > Question: how many "vendor supported" mail servers are there going to > be? There should be three mail servers in any serious repository: > sendmail, postfix and qmail; a good repository will include other > options as well. Qmail, in particular, is problematical without a > build system: the license only allows binary distribution of builds of > his sources with no patches, but has quit updating it. There are lots > of patches to update it available, but you can't build and distribute > those. > > Now do the same thing for dns servers (a good repository needs bind, > dnsmasq and djbdns), dhcp servers (isc and dnsmasq). How many > combinations of the latter are you going to support? > > <mike > -- > Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://www.mired.org/consulting.html > Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information. > > O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org >
You folks are talking, talking, talking. I work on real code, but nobody wants to help me (in whatever[!]) way. Rename it from "Developer community" to "chatting community". http://martux.org:8001/ to checkout: $ hg clone ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/hg/generic_distro_bulk password (also for commit access!!!) : "OpenSolarisIsGreat" Martin Bochnig _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
