* Martin Bochnig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
> p.s. OpenSolaris.com can continue to use IPS. It is their loss
> (truly). I would not benefit at all if they ever switched to conary
> (what they will never do, because they _cannot_ admit they made the
> smallest thing wrong). I'm not the author of conary, nor hold any
> license. We ported it exclusively because we realized its
> powerfulness. But the OpenSolaris user base does not seem to value it,
> when somebody external really starts to scratch on his head, how it
> could significantly be improved. Instead they kick you. Or at least
> ignore you.

If you take a step back and analyze the situation you're describing,
perhaps there is something to be learned from why you feel that the
community is 'kicking' you or 'ignoring' you.

You happen to think (based on your recent postings) that the Conary
packaging system has some merit and value in an OpenSolaris
distribution.  And so, in the true spirit of OpenSource you've picked up
the ball and started to run with it by creating your own derivative
distribution of OpenSolaris based on Conary.  That's great.  Presumably
you did so because it interests you personally.  Also great.  Lots of
OpenSource software starts out this way.  Someone (or a collection of
someones, though not necessary) has an idea they think is great and has
the desire to give birth to that idea.  Certainly commendable and to be
encouraged.  I've certainly seen no one discouraging you, other than to
say that Sun's Distribution of OpenSolaris is going in a different
direction.  But that's not a discouragement, derivative distributions
should be and are free to implement whatever technologies they want.
That's the whole point of being derivative.  For what it's worth, I
don't recall seeing the Nexenta folks raising a fuss making disparaging
remarks about Sun's decisions for it's OpenSolaris distribution when
they were trying to get Nexenta off the ground using apt (their package
manager of choice).  And they appear to have a thriving community and
even a business model I believe because others believe in what they are
doing which is different from what Sun is doing.  All goodness.

That said, to expect (or demand) that others are going to share in
your idea(s) seems to me like you're just asking to be disappointed.
Shouldn't it be enough if *you* find the idea interesting?  Surely you
aren't doing what you do solely for recognition or some expectation of
payment.  I've followed a lot of OpenSource projects in my lifetime.
While there have been people who started projects explicitly for 'fame
and fortune', that number is very low in my observation.  I've observed
that people start projects and write code because they find it
particularly interesting to them.  And if others happen to come along
and find what they are doing useful then that is just gravy.  And yes,
sometimes those people who aren't looking for 'fame and fortune' find it
as an unintended side-effect. A win-win all around as it were.

My point is that if people really find what you are doing interesting,
they'll come to you.  Provided you don't drive them away.

For whatever it's worth.

Cheers,

-- 
Glenn
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