The problem is that the Orion team is great at building a product, but need
some lessons on marketing it.  Very few people on the list -- myself
included -- say anything really negative about the product.  But I (and many
others) have strong reservations about the documentation.  Granted, if you
have worked with another EJB server, or have the patience to use a trial and
error approach with the existing documentation, you can get things to work.
But it is not how to really market a product.  Has anyone from Orion ever
looked at the Jboss (www.jboss.org) or Jonas (www.evidian.com/jonas)
documentation?  While it does not compare to products like Oracle or Jrun,
it is getting better with each new release.  I am trying to implement some
helpful suggestions to Orion to increase their marketing presence, and give
them some leverage over other commercial class contenders, like Unify Ewave,
and the open source products (Enhydra, Openejb, Jboss, Jonas).  

-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 6:53 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]


Dylan,

I'm a new user so bear with me...Did you check http://www.orionsupport.com ?
The last entry was 15 February 2001.  Read the Tuesday 13th Dec
"Into the Future" entry.  It has some other notes and yes, I find it
strange that a company is not responding about an offer of money.
I've thought about going to Sybase for their products.  The
documentation I've seen is strange and does not conform to what
I've become to believe is a normal application server (weird names
for products like "Jaguar CTS" doesn't help either ; at least Oracle has
09iAS).

I have not tried clustering using Orion or any other server.
Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dylan Parker
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:33 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
Importance: High


Hello, all.

My company is about to drop Orion.

The documentation issues, the dead website, the documentation issues,
the absence of company responses, the documentation issues...

We've contacted them asking where to send our money. Nothing back.

In one last futile attempt to keep Orion afloat in my company a little
longer, can anyone provide me with the following information?

How does one do EJB Clustering with Orion?
Has anyone made this work?
Can anyone give some background on the configuration steps?

If I don't hear anything... then JRun, here we come.

Thanks,
Dylan Parker





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