Couldn't agree with you more. The product is great (for the price), the user support
site is doing an excellent job, along with www.jollem.com. However, my point about
marketing still stands, and they need to beef up the documentation to win over more
converts (which they said today they would attempt to do).
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Wing Shun Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 3:21 PM
To: Kemp Randy-W18971
Cc: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
I've worked with all of the other EJB Servers (Enhydra, JBoss, Jonas,
etc). I do find the OrionServer to be far better (nice complex O-R
mapping, web and app server in one, etc).
For documentation, I refer to www.orionsupport.com, which is doing a great
job.
- Brian Chan
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Kemp Randy-W18971 wrote:
> The problem is that the Orion team is great at building a product, but need
> some lessons on marketing it. Very few people on the list -- myself
> included -- say anything really negative about the product. But I (and many
> others) have strong reservations about the documentation. Granted, if you
> have worked with another EJB server, or have the patience to use a trial and
> error approach with the existing documentation, you can get things to work.
> But it is not how to really market a product. Has anyone from Orion ever
> looked at the Jboss (www.jboss.org) or Jonas (www.evidian.com/jonas)
> documentation? While it does not compare to products like Oracle or Jrun,
> it is getting better with each new release. I am trying to implement some
> helpful suggestions to Orion to increase their marketing presence, and give
> them some leverage over other commercial class contenders, like Unify Ewave,
> and the open source products (Enhydra, Openejb, Jboss, Jonas).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 6:53 PM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: RE: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
>
>
> Dylan,
>
> I'm a new user so bear with me...Did you check http://www.orionsupport.com ?
> The last entry was 15 February 2001. Read the Tuesday 13th Dec
> "Into the Future" entry. It has some other notes and yes, I find it
> strange that a company is not responding about an offer of money.
> I've thought about going to Sybase for their products. The
> documentation I've seen is strange and does not conform to what
> I've become to believe is a normal application server (weird names
> for products like "Jaguar CTS" doesn't help either ; at least Oracle has
> 09iAS).
>
> I have not tried clustering using Orion or any other server.
> Ray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dylan Parker
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:33 PM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: EJB Clustering -- ANYONE? [Urgent!]
> Importance: High
>
>
> Hello, all.
>
> My company is about to drop Orion.
>
> The documentation issues, the dead website, the documentation issues,
> the absence of company responses, the documentation issues...
>
> We've contacted them asking where to send our money. Nothing back.
>
> In one last futile attempt to keep Orion afloat in my company a little
> longer, can anyone provide me with the following information?
>
> How does one do EJB Clustering with Orion?
> Has anyone made this work?
> Can anyone give some background on the configuration steps?
>
> If I don't hear anything... then JRun, here we come.
>
> Thanks,
> Dylan Parker
>
>
>
>
>
