As a newcomer aka newbie; i will not get anywhere without all your tunjuk ajar, preaches and makian (from mistake) from you all masters, sifus and gurus. please teach me a thing or two. maaf i cannot give you money for the lessons you tought. i just wanna sama-sama cari makan together. dan mengurangkan beban yang korang kena tanggung. Berat sama dipikul ringan sama dijinjing
"Ke Arah Merealisasikan Satu Sumber" Azhar 2011/4/4 Boh Yap <bhy...@gmail.com> > hi Red1, > > Agree, the 'Transformasi' is all about knowledge-based economy, and > higher income... this can only come from innovation. > > How do you get 'innovators', well you can hope/bet on some geniuses > will pop up.... or more likely, improve the nurture the skills, create > a bigger pool of people with those skills (a qualitative and > quantitative approach) and the chances of getting some innovators is > much better. > > But just 'training', courses and exams are not good enough! That's > what's been going on, and you have all those >10 A's students that > aren't productive in a real job! The earlier discussion touched upon a > good point - APPRENTICESHIP. > > What is needed is a FLOSS ECOSYSTEM, provide an environment for > hands-on practical learning, provide nurturing and sharing of passion > with/by Mentors (or experianced techies), kick-start some projects to > work on, add some funding and of course ppl with passion. I believe > that all these 'pieces' are lying round out there... 'we'(all FLOSS > community) have to sit down and stitch it together, put in some plans, > structures and commitment and make it work. And I'm sure we have > enough ideas out there, and we gotta stop re-inventing wheels and work > together. Building the ECOSYSTEM is important, because without that, > it'll just be another one-off project, it cannot be sustainable. > > Then hopefully, out of that ecosystem, maybe we can produce another FB > or equivalent. Not Nobel prize I don't think, for that we need pretty > good Academic Insttuitions, and besides our academics has gotta up > their publication of academic papers first! > > Hey Red1, I see you got your apprenticeship program started, that is > good.... > As for the rest, if any of you would like to get together for a > teh-tarik and discuss how we can get the ecosystem going, I'm game. (I > remember Haris(?) mentioned something like this?)... > > On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 6:32 PM, red1 <r...@red1.org> wrote: > > I concede my first point and i tarik balik tuduhan. I owe you one daun > > pisang at Raju's. > > One the 2nd last point below, i think if we can show them the numbers, > i.e. > > FOSS can generate 1% of GDP as i found out from some UN report (while > > squatting in OSCC with Raja some time ago), i think we can prove that > > innovation from FOSS far outweigh the short term benefit of proprietary > tax. > > A smarter nation is a more productive and innovative one, with perhaps > some > > Nobel prize geniuses in the offing. Now that is worth a billion to the > > country if we got just one miserable candidate. > > > > On 4/3/11 6:04 PM, Boh Yap wrote: > >> > >> hi Red1, > >> > >> On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 4:41 PM, red1<r...@red1.org> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Boh, it is ok in Malaysia because the man they hire to head MDec is not > >>> that > >>> technical either. Raja told me he is a salesman. And MOSTI big wigs are > >>> left > >>> to law abiding beaurocrats. I use to see their job specs with a > >>> smallprint > >>> in it: "Follow any other orders that may be given by your superior from > >>> time > >>> to time in compliance with General Orders." There won't be room for > >>> creativity. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> hiring the ppl with the 'right skills' for the job is not even > >> 'innovation', its just basic competency! If hiring someone with tech > >> skills to fill some management position is considered "innovation", I > >> really feel (bad) for Malaysia, we got a looooong way to go... > >> > >> > >>> > >>> In Brunei someone told me that govt is not a good innovator. But it is > a > >>> good regulator. Thus they should come out with taxation or exemption to > >>> generate creativity. For example, if you installed your own instead of > >>> paying propretary vendors, you get to claim tax exemption to the amount > >>> of > >>> money you saved. > >>> > >>> Trust me. There will be a gold rush for OSDC.my membershp forms. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Ha, this will be good if it happens, but then there is a serious > >> "conflict of interest". The vendors won't be able to make tons of > >> money from services, so the gov. cannot tax them as much, and they > >> have to give out money to the smart customers! - not gonna happen.... > >> > >> > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from and detail about this group > > http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information > > > > MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ > > > > > > -- > #------- > regds, > > Boh Heong, Yap > > -- > To unsubscribe from and detail about this group > http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information > > MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ > -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
