Thank you John for this information. I believe that a reassessment of the
importance of mathematics in Peirce's work must be obtained from the
community of Peirceans.
As for Hegel's mathematical competence, Peirce was not very charitable :
 "He has usually overlooked external Secondness, altogether. In other
words, he has committed the trifling oversight of forgetting that there is
a real world with real actions and reactions. Rather a serious oversight
that. Then Hegel had the misfortune to be unusually deficient in
mathematics. He shows this in the very elementary character of his
reasoning. " (CP 1.368)

Robert

Le mer. 29 avr. 2020 à 20:48, John F. Sowa <s...@bestweb.net> a écrit :

> Jon and Robert,
>
> This issue illustrates an important point about Peirce's development.  His
> ideas were constantly "growing" (Peirce's own word), and he kept revising
> his terminology as he continued to find new ways of relating his ideas to
> one another and to the common vocabulary of his day (much of which he
> defined for the Century Dictionary).
>
> JAS> That passage is from R 1345, dated c. 1896, and thus was written
> several  years prior to Peirce's much more comprehensive classification of
> 1903. It seems to me that empirics became phenomenology
>
> Yes, but it does not contradict what he wrote in 1896.  Unless Peirce
> explicitly rejects something he wrote earlier, we must consider it a valid
> aspect of his thought.  And we should try to understand what differences,
> if any, there may be in the different choices of words.
>
> Instead of saying that empirics became phenomenology, it's better to say
> that empirics, phenomenology, and phaneroscopy are three related, but
> slightly different ways of talking about closely related issues.
>
> RM> I always thought that the most peircean of the classifications of
> sciences was this one :
>
> CSP>  *Mathematics* the study of ideal constructions without reference to
> their  real existence, Empirics, the study of phenomena with the purpose of
> identifying their forms with those *mathematics* has studied, Pragmatics,
> the study of how we ought to behave in the light of the truths of
> empirics." (NEM, vol.IV, p. 1122)
>
> This quotation is important for understanding his 1903 classification.  It
> shows that the empirical aspects of science require mathematics to
> interpret experiences in the phaneron.
>
> And the passage from 1896 should be compared with R602, which Peirce wrote
> a few years after 1903.  In R602, Peirce goes back to the issues about the
> role of mathematics.   (See http://jfsowa.com/peirce/r602.htm )
>
> A comparison of the 1896 version with the later two shows the differences
> and the similarities between Peirce's views and Hegel's.
>
> Husserl, by the way, earned his PhD in mathematics.  In his book on
> diagrammatology, Frederik Stjernfelt showed many of the similarities
> between Peirce's phaneroscopy and Husserl's version of phenomenology. I
> strongly recommend Stjernfelt's book for its insights into the ways that
> two mathematicians addressed closely related issues.
>
> John
>
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