Hi Hilaire,

I did not reinterpret your intention. I gave you feedback. You can take it into 
account or not.

But, I actually do not understand where the original problem comes from. I 
probably miss something and that is why please allow me to describe what I see 
and then you can indicate more concretely where the issue comes from.

This whole discussion was spawned on the premise that things are degrading 
going forward from Pharo 3.0 to 6.0, and the debugger actions was one issue. 
Here is a screenshot of a Pharo 3 debugger:



Now, let’s look at the debugger from 6.0.




The main actions that exist in Pharo 6 also exist in Pharo 3 including Over and 
Through. These actions exist also in Pharo 1. Furthermore, in the Pharo 3 
debugger (which is also available in Pharo 6), there are no tooltips. The main 
goal of the tooltip from GTDebugger is to offer the shortcuts associated with 
the buttons. There were shortcuts associated to the debugger actions in Pharo 
3, but when looking at the buttons this information was not offered directly.

Could you point me to where the interface has degraded and how the tooltips 
decrease value?

Cheers,
Doru



> On Feb 3, 2017, at 10:29 PM, Hilaire <hila...@drgeo.eu> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Le 03/02/2017 à 17:12, Tudor Girba a écrit :
>> Unfortunately, your message sounded like an angry complaint and this often 
>> has the tendency to stifle collaboration. As I am sure this was not your 
>> intention, let’s try to take that energy and transform it into something 
>> positive that can lead to action.
>> 
>> Concretely: You complained about the text in the tooltips. I understand that 
>> you do not have time to fix the code, but here is what you can easily do: 
>> propose the concrete pieces of text that would work for you and we can take 
>> it from there.
>> 
>> What do you say?
> 
> I say we have an important misunderstanding, it would have been better
> you re-read my previous post than trying to interpret my intention.
> 
> The only way to respond to you is to ask you to explain me, if you know,
> what are the differences between 'over' and 'through' buttons in the
> debugger.
> Then I may be able to word tooltips for these two buttons, but you will
> have already word it in your explanation I guess.
> Ok we are just making round circle here ;)
> 
> I guess a UI quality team could see that sort of tiny itches and ask to
> the community, then fix it.
> 
> Hilaire
> 
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