Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You can actually get Visual Studio .NET 2005 Personal Edition, and SQL > Server Desktop Edition, for free (as in beer of course). It can't do > web services though, but you can create Windows.Forms based programs > (i.e. desktop GUI apps) with it.
So why didn't you tell me in the first place? :D I'll check it out, thanks. > I wish Microsoft would come up with an academic program where > qualified students could get themselves legal copies of the *full* > development suite for free (as in beer). That, and a highly > subsidized or free MSDN access. It would promote a lot of good will, I > think. Yes, I see Sacha already hinted that AdMU has this thing with M$ going on for quite some time now. I also believe the popular compsci schools also have this set in place... > Make no mistake, the Microsoft products of 10 years ago left much, > much to be desired. It's part of what drove me to UNIX/Linux. but > today's Microsoft products (both OS and development) are much, much > better. And that is what still drives me to be tolerant still of using these products. Not that I abhor them: I still maintain some respect for windoze et al. because that's where I came to realize how *I came to want more* from my computing, that Windows cannot provide at the time. Indeed, M$ has come a long way, and that's a nice feat... > I don't think Uncle Bill has that much to say about the matter. Part > of the reason (daw) is profanity in the comments! Also remember that > Windows code is loaded with patents and copyrights that are NOT OWNED > by Microsoft. so even if Uncle Bill or Ballmer were *convinced* of the > value proposition of freeing Windows (which they are not..) it would > be very, very hard to pull off. But still *not* impossible. :D I like to have a little hope. Maybe when we all get too old to read from the CRT/LCD, that would be the grand time when they open it up. Assuming, of course, that nobody else would have written a Windows clone 99.99% compatible with everything else and released either as BSD or GPL... > i would also like to point out that, even though we all love to bash > Uncle Bill for his money-grubbing ways, the Bill and Melinda Gates > Foundation has already given ~ $20 Billion for AIDS research and > vaccination in Africa. Compared to his total fortune, it's not as > "impressive" as Ted Turner's $1 Billion donation to the UN (since > Ted's fortune is < $2 Billion). But in absolute terms, Uncle Bill is > the largest philanthropist in the world today. That is something *nobody* can dispute. Well, I guess we all have to him a pat on the back for that one, saving the world :D. Still, in the back of my mind, I wonder if those guys doing the research are on FLOSS... probably unlikely :/ -- ZAK B. ELEP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- <http://zakame.spunge.org> 1024D/FA53851D 1486 7957 454D E529 E4F1 F75E 5787 B1FD FA53 851D -- Running Debian GNU+Linux testing/unstable. GnuPG signed mail preferred.
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