YOU SAID: >"I was born in a german consulare office in trhe US of German parents (my >father was the consul)"
Read it and weep: Exceptions to the General Rule: Foreign Sovereigns, Foreign Diplomats and their Families The general rule does not apply to foreign sovereigns, accredited foreign diplomats or their families since under International law they are not subject to the law of the foreign country which has received them. Accordingly, children born in the United States to such individuals are not entitled to United States citizenship. LOL! Its becoming apparent you're totally full of shit, ain't it? On Aug 3, 8:39 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > You keep quoting exclusions that have been placed since the 80's. I was born > long before that. > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > 3. With very few exceptions, most of which have to do with children born > > to foreign government officials on assignment to the U.S > > > That would be YOU. Or were you born at the German Consulate because > > your mom was at a cocktail party there at the time? > > > On Aug 3, 4:57 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I did not "acquire" either, both were inherent at birth. You are indeed > > > wrong. I did acquire CR citizenship but without taking an oath... it did > > not > > > effect my prior citizenships at all. Now as to your supposed links.... > > this > > > is from the US Embassy in Frankfort., Section IV sums it up. > > > > U.S. Citizen Services in Germany Passports, Reports of Birth and > > > Renunciations U.S. and German Citizenship and Dual Nationality I. Basic > > > Primer on American Citizenship Law > > > > 1. A person can become an American citizen in one of two ways: by > > birth > > > or by naturalization. > > > 2. A person may be born a U.S. citizen by either jus soli, i.e., > > through > > > place of birth, or jus sanguinis, i.e., through descent from his/her > > > parents. > > > 3. With very few exceptions, most of which have to do with children > > born > > > to foreign government officials on assignment to the U.S., a person > > born in > > > any of the fifty states, Guam, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin > > Islands is > > > an American citizen at birth under the principle of jus soli, > > regardless of > > > the nationality of his/her parents. Please contact the Embassy or your > > > nearest consulate for more information. > > > 4. A person born outside the U.S. or its possessions or territories to > > an > > > American parent may acquire citizenship at birth through jus > > sanguinis. For > > > additional information about the complicated issue of transmission of > > U.S. > > > citizenship by jus sanguinis, please visit the USCIS website or > > contact the > > > Embassy or your nearest consulate. > > > 5. A non-American can become an American citizen at some time after > > > his/her birth through the naturalization process, i.e., by applying > > for U.S. > > > citizenship and satisfying certain legal requirements. Normally, > > he/she must > > > have resided legally in the U.S. for a considerable period before > > becoming > > > eligible for naturalization. Before being admitted to citizenship, the > > > applicant must give up any foreign allegiance and promise to obey the > > > Constitution and laws of the U.S. For more information about > > naturalization, > > > please contact the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, > > Consulate > > > General Frankfurt, Gießener Str. 30, 60435 Frankfurt am Main, > > 069-7535-2233, > > > -2243, or -2298, or visit the USCIS web page on naturalization. > > > 6. A child adopted by an American does not automatically become an > > > American citizen. For more information about the naturalization of > > adopted > > > children, please contact the Immigration and Naturalization Service at > > the > > > address, telephone numbers, and/or web site in paragraph 5 above. > > > 7. Americans have a right under U.S. law to renounce their U.S. > > > citizenship in a consulate abroad. For more information on loss of > > U.S. > > > citizenship, please contact the Embassy or your nearest consulate. > > > > II. Basic Primer on German Citizenship Law > > > > 1. A person can become a German citizen in one of three ways: by > > birth, > > > by adoption as a minor, or by naturalization. > > > 2. A person may be born a German citizen by either jus sanguinis, > > i.e., > > > through descent from his/her parents, or jus soli, i.e., through place > > of > > > birth. > > > 3. As a general rule, a child born to a German citizen parent > > > automatically acquires German citizenship at birth through jus > > sanguinis, > > > regardless of the place of birth. There are exceptions under present > > law, > > > however, and have been many in the past. For more information about > > how > > > German citizenship may be transmitted by a German parent, please > > contact > > > your local Staatsangehörigkeitsbehörde (or Standesamt, in some parts > > of > > > Germany). > > > 4. As of January 1, 2000, a child born in Germany to non-German > > parents > > > automatically acquires German citizenship at birth by jus soli if: (1) > > at > > > least one parent had lived legally in Germany for at least eight years > > prior > > > to the birth; (2) at the time of the birth, that parent had a > > permanent > > > residence permit (either an Aufenthaltsberichtigung or, for the three > > years > > > prior to the birth, an unbefristete Aufenhaltserlaubnis). *Note that: > > * > > > - The child must choose between German nationality and the > > nationality > > > of his/her parents before he/she turns 23 years of age, unless > > > it is legally > > > impossible for him/her to give up his/her parents' nationality, in > > which > > > case he/she must apply to the German authorities for dual > > > nationality before > > > turning 21. > > > - Special rules apply to children born between February 2, 1990, > > and > > > December 31, 1999, who have until December 31, 2000, to apply for > > German > > > citizenship. > > > - Those born in Germany to non-German parents before February 2, > > 1990, > > > have no claim to German citizenship under this law. > > > - For more information, please contact your local > > > Staatsangehörigkeitsbehörde or the nearest office of the > > Ausländerbeirat > > > (Foreigners Advisory Council). > > > 5. A person can become a German citizen at some time after his/her > > birth > > > through the Einbürgerung (German naturalization) process, i.e., by > > applying > > > for German citizenship and satisfying certain legal requirements. One > > > requirement is the formal renunciation of all other nationalities, > > unless > > > legally impossible under the laws of the applicant's home country. For > > more > > > information about German naturalization process, please contact your > > local > > > Staatsangehörigkeitsbehörde (or Standesamt in some parts of Germany) > > or the > > > nearest Ausländerbeirat. > > > 6. A child under age 18 adopted by a German citizen automatically > > becomes > > > a German citizen as of the time of the adoption. > > > 7. A German citizen has no right to renounce his/her German > > citizenship > > > but generally is allowed to do so, so long as he/she does not become > > > stateless as a result. While there are exceptions, as a general rule a > > > German citizen may not give up citizenship to avoid an obligation of > > that > > > citizenship, e.g., military service. For more information about loss > > of > > > German citizenship, please contact your local > > Staatsangehörigkeitsbehörde > > > (or Standesamt). > > > > III. American-German Dual Nationality > > > > 1. Both the United States and Germany recognize the concept of > > multiple > > > nationality. > > > 2. A child born to an American parent and a German parent acquires > > both > > > American and German citizenship at birth, regardless of place of > > birth, if > > > the parents satisfy the jus soli or jus sanguinis requirements of > > their > > > respective countries. See the sections above entitled, "Basic Primer > > on > > > American Citizenship Law," and "Basic Primer on German Citizenship > > Law." > > > Neither country requires a person born under these circumstances to > > choose > > > between American and German citizenship, i.e., he/she may keep both > > > citizenships his/her entire life. > > > 3. A child born in Germany to two American parents may also become a > > dual > > > national at birth under the circumstances described in paragraph 4 in > > the > > > section above entitled, "Basic Primer on German Citizenship Law." > > Under > > > German law, he/she would have to choose between American and German > > > citizenship before turning 23. > > > 4. Under German law, a person may not have more than one citizenship > > > unless he/she was born with both, as described in paragraphs 2 and 3 > > above. > > > Thus, German law requires an American who becomes a German citizen > > through > > > the Einbürgerung process (see paragraph 5 in the section entitled, > > "Basic > > > Primer on German Citizenship Law") to formally renounce his/her > > American > > > citizenship, and a German who becomes an American citizen (see > > paragraph 5 > > > in the section entitled, "Basic Primer on American Citizenship Law") > > to give > > > up his/her German citizenship. > > > 5. While Germany recognizes the concept of dual nationality, for most > > > purposes it considers a dual national in Germany a German citizen > > only. > > > Thus, the ability of the U.S. Embassy and consulates to provide > > assistance > > > to an American-German dual national in Germany may be limited. The > > reverse > > > is true in the U.S., where such a person is considered only American > > for > > > most purposes, and where the German Embassy or consulates may be able > > to > > > offer only limited assistance. For more information, please contact > > the > > > Embassy or your nearest consulate. > > > > IV. The Responsibilities of Citizenship > > > > 1. *Along with the rights and privileges of a citizenship come certain > > > responsibilities. For example: * > > > - *All American-German dual nationals must enter the United States > > > with a valid U.S. passport; to enter with only a German passport or > > > Kinderausweis is a violation of U.S. law. * > > > - *Depending on the laws in effect, level of > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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