key word ..... ahead. and if I find that an idea is stupid it is much more honest and correct to say so than to dance around the issue; if you take umbrage with that it is indeed a personal problem indicating a problem of self worth.
i did not call YOU stupid.... just the idea. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:35 PM, LimboIndo <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ok couple things here.... > > The vast majority of people here do want the system to be reformed. > Certain people think that the louder the talk, the more valid their > point. People who want healthcare reform are not on T.V. screaming and > insulting people to get attention. This is begining to irritate me. > The right does not speak for most of America. And they are only > converting undecided people with their mindless/baseless screams of > "communism", "facism" and "socialism". They never address what is best > for the American people. > > Ok this is the second time I've been insulted personally. You may not > know me, but please do not do this again. I came here for a discussion/ > debate about real political issues. Any idiot with no education can > sling insults, it does not make you seem witty/funny or smarter. > > And your snippet about the Health Care system in Costa Rica does > everything to reinforce MY statement. You have socialized health care, > yet still a lively, cheap and efficient private sector. Thank you for > the assitance in proving my point. FYI you rank right ahead of us on > the WHO Health Care System rankings. > > On Oct 1, 12:08 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > Lim.... > > > > If, in fact,. you support your statement that the people are the > > Government then why aren't you listening to the vast majority that do > > not want the system touched ???? > > > > How hypocritical and or stupid of you to espouse all your reasons and > > then say something like that. > > > > As far as health care costs go... a product (any product) only costs > > as much as people will pay in a free enterprise system. > > > > I can go to the private sector here (Costa Rica) and get an MRI or CAT > > Scan for 200.00USD (or free if I wait a week for the public system)... > > They use the same equipment and training as the outlets in the US do, > > and I can get the response (diagnoses) that same day from a Georgetown > > (U of Miami for public system) trained physician.... Please explain > > why ?? Then you may have a leg to stand on for your otherwise baseless > > arguement. > > > > On Oct 1, 10:16 am, LimboIndo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In response to Plain'ol > > > > > It depends on what you mean by "efficient?" It is dangerous to confuse > > > "efficiency" with "what is best for the American people." > > > > > In response to MJ-- > > > > > What reforms have Government instituted thus far? This is the first > > > proposal of a major (emphasis major)reform of health care instituted > > > by the Government that has ever been proposed, to my knowledge. > > > > > In response to the snippet about socialist, government etc... > > > It would appear Mr. Bastiat confuses a Democratic Society and any > > > other Society. In Democracy the people are the government. > > > > > And it seems both of you have danced around the question. "If we can > > > get > > > everyone Health Care without more taxes, without healthcare quality > > > going down and without healthcare costs going up, what is the > > > problem?" > > > > > If there is no problem with the ideal, then we need to work on the > > > details of how to implement it. If you do have a problem with the > > > ideal, then your problem might be larger than you suspect. > > > > > On Oct 1, 9:06 am, "M. Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > LimboIndo > > > > But is healthcare reform the right thing to do for our country? > > > > > > MJ > > > > You presume that Government -- who gave us 'reform' after > > > > 'reform' after 'reform' that put us *in* this mess in the first > > > > place -- is the appropriate facilitator for this so-called 'reform'. > > > > > > Unless Government 'reform' involves a wholesale 'repeal', > > > > then the answer is definitively ... No. > > > > > > Regard$, > > > > --MJ > > > > > > Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, > > > > confuses the distinction between government and society. > > > > As a result of this, every time we object to a thing > > > > being done by government, the socialists conclude that > > > > we object to its being done at all. -- Frédéric Bastiat- Hide > quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- Mark M. Kahle, , www.filacoffee.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
