*Your twisted pretzel logic is, as usual, illogical.* ** *This talented young man would still be alive if it were not for the horrible shame he felt after this secret video was posted on the internet by his straight roomate.*
On 10/1/10, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > I guess every time a gay guy comits suicide it is always a societal > homophobia, never anything else. And every time anyone kids a gay guy then > it is homophobia, never anything else. The people who filmed him should > pay for this big time but your thoughts on exactly why he took his own life > are open to question. People do things for reasons other than homophobia, > you know. The world does not revolve for the reasons you think it does and > the world does not sit there waiting for Tommy News do determine if it was > homophobia or not. You seem to think that if a gay guy does not get a job > he applied for it has to be because of homophobia, not that someone better > applied also. > > On 10/01/2010 11:19 AM, Tommy News wrote: > > *Do you think Tyler Clementi would have taken his own life if he had been > filmed in a private romantic encounter with a girl?* > *Think about why he took his life, why he did it. * > * In addition, Think about why his straight roommate secretly filmed the > encounter and broadcast it on the Internet. > * > *The problem is societal homophobia, which causes deep shame, ridicule, > harm, and persecution of gays.* > > *Think, I know you can!* > > On 10/1/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Tommy, >> >> One may first want to ask exactly what was so embarrassing and >> repugnant on the tape that the young man was willing to take his own >> life and why it was so to him. >> >> That which made him jump came from within his own mind. >> >> Since when is it governments job to legislate fortitude and love of >> ones self ??? >> >> >> >> On Sep 30, 6:23 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> > *Take Action: Send A No More Suicides Letter to President Obama and >> Congress >> > * >> > *Tell them to introduce and pass The American Equality Bill, to amend >> the >> > Civil Rights Act of 1964 to include sexual orientation and gender >> identity.* >> > ** >> > < >> http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/30/suicide-and-the-internet/> >> > Tyler Clementi Jumped off the George Washington Bridge in New York after >> his >> > same-sex romantic encounter was secretly filmed and posted on the >> internet >> > by his college roomate. At least three other youths have killed >> themselves >> > due to homophobic bullying. Stop The Hate! >> > >> > From our friend Tif: >> > >> > -- THE LETTER BELOW WAS WRITTEN by Jonathan W, of Brooklyn, NY and >> really >> > captures the heart of the matter it seems. >> > >> > Please SEND IT as a comment to the White House at: >> > >> > http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact >> > ... >> > And LET THEM HEAR US SAY: >> > >> > *** Mr. President PLEASE SPEAK OUT LOUDLY about homophobia, school >> bullying >> > and equal civil rights for LGBTQ people -- no more suicide letters. *** >> > >> > To President Obama, >> > All of us are horrified by the tragedy of Tyler Clementi, the young man >> who >> > committed suicide after his sexual encounter with another man was posted >> on >> > the internet. We share anger and disgust at the 2 students accused of >> this >> > despicable act. But if our outrage stops there, we will be doing a grave >> > disservice to the millions of young gay men and women in this country >> who >> > live with shame and fear everyday and who have a 4 times greater risk of >> > suicide than their straight counterparts. >> > Most people would be embarrassed and angered at having their private >> sexual >> > acts secretly recorded and posted on the internet, but it seems unlikely >> > that Mr. Clementi would have been driven to suicide if this had been a >> > heterosexual encounter. A young heterosexual man would not likely >> experience >> > the shame and fear that Mr. Clementi must have felt. >> > Yes, the 2 students accused of this crime must be held accountable for >> their >> > actions, but as a society we must all share responsibility for creating >> an >> > environment that drives young gay people to suicide. This country has >> come a >> > long way toward acceptance of gay people in the last few decades, but we >> > still have a long way to go. Young gay people still face bullying and >> abuse >> > at home and at school; many experience ostracism by family and friends; >> > discrimination in school, work, housing and social services; and >> isolation >> > from supportive communities of peers, as well as anti-gay violence in >> public >> > and private. It's no wonder that the shame and fear of 'coming out' can >> be >> > fatal. >> > In the cyber world we now live in, there will undoubtedly be more cases >> of >> > invasions of privacy on the internet. They can be punished, but not >> > prevented. It is up to all of us in this society to make sure that young >> gay >> > people feel safe, secure and accepted, so that shame and fear never >> again >> > result in death. >> > >> > Sincerely, >> >> -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community at >> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > > > > -- > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > Have a great day, > Tommy -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at > http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at > http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > -- Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. Have a great day, Tommy -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
