I think the issue here is that someone shot and distributed the images against the suicide victim's will.... Plus, the victim was relatively young... eighteen....Gay or not.... that's a lot for a young person to handle..... nominal9
On Oct 1, 12:09 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > *Just exactly what was he ashamed of ??? Being gay ?? How do you know ?? > He's certainly not talking.* > * > * > *Further, if one is going to do or be involved in something that they find > THAT shameful maybe they should rethink their own position first rather than > legislate an entire populace for a personal error.* > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > > *Your twisted pretzel logic is, as usual, illogical.* > > ** > > *This talented young man would still be alive if it were not for the > > horrible shame he felt after this secret video was posted on the internet by > > his straight roomate.* > > > On 10/1/10, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> I guess every time a gay guy comits suicide it is always a societal > >> homophobia, never anything else. And every time anyone kids a gay guy then > >> it is homophobia, never anything else. The people who filmed him should > >> pay for this big time but your thoughts on exactly why he took his own life > >> are open to question. People do things for reasons other than homophobia, > >> you know. The world does not revolve for the reasons you think it does > >> and > >> the world does not sit there waiting for Tommy News do determine if it was > >> homophobia or not. You seem to think that if a gay guy does not get a job > >> he applied for it has to be because of homophobia, not that someone better > >> applied also. > > >> On 10/01/2010 11:19 AM, Tommy News wrote: > > >> *Do you think Tyler Clementi would have taken his own life if he had > >> been filmed in a private romantic encounter with a girl?* > >> *Think about why he took his life, why he did it. * > >> * In addition, Think about why his straight roommate secretly filmed the > >> encounter and broadcast it on the Internet. > >> * > >> *The problem is societal homophobia, which causes deep shame, ridicule, > >> harm, and persecution of gays.* > > >> *Think, I know you can!* > > >> On 10/1/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> Tommy, > > >>> One may first want to ask exactly what was so embarrassing and > >>> repugnant on the tape that the young man was willing to take his own > >>> life and why it was so to him. > > >>> That which made him jump came from within his own mind. > > >>> Since when is it governments job to legislate fortitude and love of > >>> ones self ??? > > >>> On Sep 30, 6:23 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > *Take Action: Send A No More Suicides Letter to President Obama and > >>> Congress > >>> > * > >>> > *Tell them to introduce and pass The American Equality Bill, to amend > >>> the > >>> > Civil Rights Act of 1964 to include sexual orientation and gender > >>> identity.* > >>> > ** > >>> > < > >>>http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/30/suicide-and-the-internet/> > >>> > Tyler Clementi Jumped off the George Washington Bridge in New York > >>> after his > >>> > same-sex romantic encounter was secretly filmed and posted on the > >>> internet > >>> > by his college roomate. At least three other youths have killed > >>> themselves > >>> > due to homophobic bullying. Stop The Hate! > > >>> > From our friend Tif: > > >>> > -- THE LETTER BELOW WAS WRITTEN by Jonathan W, of Brooklyn, NY and > >>> really > >>> > captures the heart of the matter it seems. > > >>> > Please SEND IT as a comment to the White House at: > > >>> >http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact > >>> > ... > >>> > And LET THEM HEAR US SAY: > > >>> > *** Mr. President PLEASE SPEAK OUT LOUDLY about homophobia, school > >>> bullying > >>> > and equal civil rights for LGBTQ people -- no more suicide letters. *** > > >>> > To President Obama, > >>> > All of us are horrified by the tragedy of Tyler Clementi, the young man > >>> who > >>> > committed suicide after his sexual encounter with another man was > >>> posted on > >>> > the internet. We share anger and disgust at the 2 students accused of > >>> this > >>> > despicable act. But if our outrage stops there, we will be doing a > >>> grave > >>> > disservice to the millions of young gay men and women in this country > >>> who > >>> > live with shame and fear everyday and who have a 4 times greater risk > >>> of > >>> > suicide than their straight counterparts. > >>> > Most people would be embarrassed and angered at having their private > >>> sexual > >>> > acts secretly recorded and posted on the internet, but it seems > >>> unlikely > >>> > that Mr. Clementi would have been driven to suicide if this had been a > >>> > heterosexual encounter. A young heterosexual man would not likely > >>> experience > >>> > the shame and fear that Mr. Clementi must have felt. > >>> > Yes, the 2 students accused of this crime must be held accountable for > >>> their > >>> > actions, but as a society we must all share responsibility for creating > >>> an > >>> > environment that drives young gay people to suicide. This country has > >>> come a > >>> > long way toward acceptance of gay people in the last few decades, but > >>> we > >>> > still have a long way to go. Young gay people still face bullying and > >>> abuse > >>> > at home and at school; many experience ostracism by family and friends; > >>> > discrimination in school, work, housing and social services; and > >>> isolation > >>> > from supportive communities of peers, as well as anti-gay violence in > >>> public > >>> > and private. It's no wonder that the shame and fear of 'coming out' can > >>> be > >>> > fatal. > >>> > In the cyber world we now live in, there will undoubtedly be more cases > >>> of > >>> > invasions of privacy on the internet. They can be punished, but not > >>> > prevented. It is up to all of us in this society to make sure that > >>> young gay > >>> > people feel safe, secure and accepted, so that shame and fear never > >>> again > >>> > result in death. > > >>> > Sincerely, > > >>> -- > >>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >>> For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > >>> * Visit our other community > >>> athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > >>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > >>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > >> -- > >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > >> Have a great day, > >> Tommy -- > >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >> For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > >> * Visit our other community > >> athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > >> * It's active and moderated. 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