*Why do you think he took his life? What caused this decision?* ** *What causes homophobia?*
On 10/1/10, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > *Just exactly what was he ashamed of ??? Being gay ?? How do you know ?? > He's certainly not talking.* > * > * > *Further, if one is going to do or be involved in something that they find > THAT shameful maybe they should rethink their own position first rather than > legislate an entire populace for a personal error.* > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > >> *Your twisted pretzel logic is, as usual, illogical.* >> ** >> *This talented young man would still be alive if it were not for the >> horrible shame he felt after this secret video was posted on the internet by >> his straight roomate.* >> >> >> On 10/1/10, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I guess every time a gay guy comits suicide it is always a societal >>> homophobia, never anything else. And every time anyone kids a gay guy then >>> it is homophobia, never anything else. The people who filmed him should >>> pay for this big time but your thoughts on exactly why he took his own life >>> are open to question. People do things for reasons other than homophobia, >>> you know. The world does not revolve for the reasons you think it does and >>> the world does not sit there waiting for Tommy News do determine if it was >>> homophobia or not. You seem to think that if a gay guy does not get a job >>> he applied for it has to be because of homophobia, not that someone better >>> applied also. >>> >>> On 10/01/2010 11:19 AM, Tommy News wrote: >>> >>> *Do you think Tyler Clementi would have taken his own life if he had >>> been filmed in a private romantic encounter with a girl?* >>> *Think about why he took his life, why he did it. * >>> * In addition, Think about why his straight roommate secretly filmed the >>> encounter and broadcast it on the Internet. >>> * >>> *The problem is societal homophobia, which causes deep shame, ridicule, >>> harm, and persecution of gays.* >>> >>> *Think, I know you can!* >>> >>> On 10/1/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Tommy, >>>> >>>> One may first want to ask exactly what was so embarrassing and >>>> repugnant on the tape that the young man was willing to take his own >>>> life and why it was so to him. >>>> >>>> That which made him jump came from within his own mind. >>>> >>>> Since when is it governments job to legislate fortitude and love of >>>> ones self ??? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 30, 6:23 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > *Take Action: Send A No More Suicides Letter to President Obama and >>>> Congress >>>> > * >>>> > *Tell them to introduce and pass The American Equality Bill, to amend >>>> the >>>> > Civil Rights Act of 1964 to include sexual orientation and gender >>>> identity.* >>>> > ** >>>> > < >>>> http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/30/suicide-and-the-internet/ >>>> > >>>> > Tyler Clementi Jumped off the George Washington Bridge in New York >>>> after his >>>> > same-sex romantic encounter was secretly filmed and posted on the >>>> internet >>>> > by his college roomate. At least three other youths have killed >>>> themselves >>>> > due to homophobic bullying. Stop The Hate! >>>> > >>>> > From our friend Tif: >>>> > >>>> > -- THE LETTER BELOW WAS WRITTEN by Jonathan W, of Brooklyn, NY and >>>> really >>>> > captures the heart of the matter it seems. >>>> > >>>> > Please SEND IT as a comment to the White House at: >>>> > >>>> > http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact >>>> > ... >>>> > And LET THEM HEAR US SAY: >>>> > >>>> > *** Mr. President PLEASE SPEAK OUT LOUDLY about homophobia, school >>>> bullying >>>> > and equal civil rights for LGBTQ people -- no more suicide letters. >>>> *** >>>> > >>>> > To President Obama, >>>> > All of us are horrified by the tragedy of Tyler Clementi, the young >>>> man who >>>> > committed suicide after his sexual encounter with another man was >>>> posted on >>>> > the internet. We share anger and disgust at the 2 students accused of >>>> this >>>> > despicable act. But if our outrage stops there, we will be doing a >>>> grave >>>> > disservice to the millions of young gay men and women in this country >>>> who >>>> > live with shame and fear everyday and who have a 4 times greater risk >>>> of >>>> > suicide than their straight counterparts. >>>> > Most people would be embarrassed and angered at having their private >>>> sexual >>>> > acts secretly recorded and posted on the internet, but it seems >>>> unlikely >>>> > that Mr. Clementi would have been driven to suicide if this had been a >>>> > heterosexual encounter. A young heterosexual man would not likely >>>> experience >>>> > the shame and fear that Mr. Clementi must have felt. >>>> > Yes, the 2 students accused of this crime must be held accountable for >>>> their >>>> > actions, but as a society we must all share responsibility for >>>> creating an >>>> > environment that drives young gay people to suicide. This country has >>>> come a >>>> > long way toward acceptance of gay people in the last few decades, but >>>> we >>>> > still have a long way to go. Young gay people still face bullying and >>>> abuse >>>> > at home and at school; many experience ostracism by family and >>>> friends; >>>> > discrimination in school, work, housing and social services; and >>>> isolation >>>> > from supportive communities of peers, as well as anti-gay violence in >>>> public >>>> > and private. It's no wonder that the shame and fear of 'coming out' >>>> can be >>>> > fatal. >>>> > In the cyber world we now live in, there will undoubtedly be more >>>> cases of >>>> > invasions of privacy on the internet. They can be punished, but not >>>> > prevented. It is up to all of us in this society to make sure that >>>> young gay >>>> > people feel safe, secure and accepted, so that shame and fear never >>>> again >>>> > result in death. >>>> > >>>> > Sincerely, >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>> >>>> * Visit our other community at >>>> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >>> Have a great day, >>> Tommy -- >>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>> >>> * Visit our other community at >>> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>> >>> * Visit our other community at >>> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> Have a great day, >> Tommy >> >> -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community at >> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> > > > > -- > Mark M. Kahle H. > > > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at > http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > -- Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. Have a great day, Tommy -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
