Interesting you mention well behaved gays. Now how about non-well
behaved gays. You are taking the gays of one type and contrasting them
with the heteros of a totally different type and then saying see how
well behaved the gays are in contrast. That is a lie in action.
On 12/19/2010 01:24 PM, Tommy News wrote:
Your homophobia is quite evident in these filthy minded, offensive statements.
Heteosexuals are far,far more lewed and vulgar in and out of the
barracks than most well behaved gays are.
On 12/19/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE<[email protected]> wrote:
Like I have said TommyTomTom once this gets implemented and Gays start
drawing DDs and BCDs for being openly Gay in the barracks (as was the
case before DADT) you and they will seek "special rights" such as DADT
offered. There is no room in the UCMJ for those "special rights" that
you and the other liberals will seek when this starts to happen.
I wish you well.
On Dec 19, 10:39 am, Keith In Tampa<[email protected]> wrote:
Tom,
As we have established, you cannot point to any example of where I have
demonsrated any hateful lie or smear. We all sit here, atwitter with
excitement and anticipation, for you to point to any post where I have
done
so.
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Tommy News<[email protected]> wrote:
No, you stop your hate smears and lies, Little Keithie.
On 12/19/10, Keith In Tampa<[email protected]> wrote:
Stop the hate, smear and lies Lil Tommy!!
<Grin>!!
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 11:27 PM, GregfromBoston
<[email protected]>wrote:
Like we told you a long time ago. Bring it up by itself and it will
pass
-------------------------
Yes we did.
Ready to move on Tom, or would you like a list of democrats who voted
against extending UI benefits, using your criteria?
On Dec 18, 11:20 pm, dick thompson<[email protected]> wrote:
You really are a dipsh*t. We told you long ago bring it up by
itself
and it will pass. They finally did and it passed. Doesn't
matter
what else you say, that is what happened. Now to see that the
rest
of
these bills continue getting voted down. None of them are worth
passing.
On 12/18/2010 10:02 PM, Tommy News wrote:
Wrong again.
What I saw was that 31 Republican Senators voted against DADT
repeal
based upon their stand alone misguided homophobia which has now
been
plainly exposed. We must now campaign to vote all 31 of them out
of
office to get ENDA, UAFA, and AEB passed, and DOMA repealed.
2012,
Bring it on.
On 12/18/10, dick thompson<[email protected]> wrote:
Like we told you a long time ago. Bring it up by itself and it
will
pass. Instead you kept trying to blame the votes against the
Omnibus
earmark bill on the DADT alone. Someday you might learn
something
but
I kinda doubt it. Now maybe you will accept that some of the
votes
against the Omnibus krep bill were against something other than
DADT.
Although I doubt that too. You are far too wedded to blaming
anything
that goes against what you want as being homophobic alone.
Obviously
that is not so.
On 12/18/2010 09:43 PM, Tommy News wrote:
Victory! Senate Repeals �Don�t Ask, Don�t Tell�,
Despite
31
Republican
No Votes and John McCain's Fillibuster Attempt. This is a long
overdue
victory for Civil Rights equality. Repeal of DOMA and Passige
of
ENDA
and UAFA, and introduction of The American Equality Bill for
Civil
Rights are next.
Senate Repeals �Don�t Ask, Don�t Tell�
Drew Angerer/The New York Times
Senator Joseph I. Lieberman gave the thumbs up as Majority
Leader
Harry Reid spoke at a press conference after the �don�t
ask,
don�t
tell� vote.
By CARL HULSE
nk WASHINGTON � The Senate on Saturday voted to strike down
the
ban
on
gay men and lesbians serving openly in the military, bringing
to a
close a 17-year struggle over a policy that forced thousands of
Americans from the ranks and caused others to keep secret their
sexual
orientation.
Clockwise from left, Senators Mark Udall, Joseph I. Lieberman,
Susan
Collins and Kirsten Gillibrand after a news conference on the
repeal
of �don�t ask, don�t tell.�
By a vote of 65 to 31, with eight Republicans joining
Democrats,
the
Senate approved and sent to President Obama a repeal of the
Clinton-era law, known as �don�t ask, don�t tell,� a
policy
critics
said amounted to government-sanctioned discrimination that
treated
gay, lesbian and bisexual troops as second-class citizens.
Mr. Obama hailed the action, which fulfills his pledge to
reverse
the
ban, and said it was �time to close this chapter in our
history.�
�As commander in chief, I am also absolutely convinced that
making
this change will only underscore the professionalism of our
troops
as
the best-led and best-trained fighting force the world has ever
known,� he said in a statement after the Senate, on a
preliminary
63-to-33 vote, beat back Republican efforts to block final
action
on
the repeal bill.
The vote marked a historic moment that some equated with the
end
of
racial segregation in the military.
It followed an exhaustive Pentagon review that determined the
policy
could be changed with only isolated disruptions to unit
cohesion
and
retention, though members of combat units and the Marine Corps
expressed greater reservations about the shift. Congressional
action
was backed by Pentagon officials as a better alternative to a
court-ordered end.
Supporters of the repeal said it was long past time to abolish
what
they saw as an ill-advised practice that cost valuable
personnel
and
forced troops to lie to serve their country.
�We righted a wrong,� said Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, the
independent from Connecticut and a leader of the effort to end
the
ban. �Today we�ve done justice.�
Before voting on the repeal, the Senate blocked a bill that
would
have
created a path to citizenship for certain illegal immigrants
who
came
to the United States at a young age, completed two years of
college
or
military service and met other requirements including passing a
criminal background check.
The 55-to-41 vote in favor of the citizenship bill was five
votes
short of the number needed to clear the way for final passage
of
what
is known as the Dream Act.
The outcome effectively kills it for this year, and its fate
beyond
that is uncertain since Republicans who will assume control of
the
House in January oppose the measure and are unlikely to bring
it
to
a
vote.
The Senate then moved on to the military legislation, engaging
in
an
emotional back and forth over the merits of the measure as
advocates
for repeal watched from galleries crowded with people
interested
in
the fate of both the military and immigration measures.
�I don�t care who you love,� Senator Ron Wyden, Democrat
of
Oregon,
said as the debate opened. �If you love this country enough
to
risk
your life for it, you shouldn�t have to hide who you are.�
Mr. Wyden showed up for the Senate vote despite saying earlier
that
he
would be unable to do so because he would be undergoing final
tests
before his scheduled surgery for prostate cancer on Monday.
The vote came in the final days of the 111th Congress as
Democrats
sought to force through a final few priorities before they turn
over
control of the House of Representatives to the Republicans in
January
and see their clout in the Senate diminished.
It represented a significant victory for the White House,
Congressional advocates of lifting the ban and activists who
have
pushed for years to end the Pentagon policy created in 1993
under
the
Clinton administration as a compromise effort to end the
practice
of
barring gay men and lesbians entirely from military service.
Saying it represented an emotional moment for members of the
gay
community nationwide, advocates who supported repeal of
�don�t
ask,
don�t tell� exchanged hugs outside the Senate chamber after
the
vote.
�Today�s vote means gay and lesbian service members posted
all
around
the world can stand taller knowing that �don�t ask, don�t
tell� will
soon be coming to an end,� said Aubrey Sarvis, an Army
veteran
and
executive director for Servicemembers Legal Defense Network.
Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona and his party�s
presidential candidate in 2008, led the opposition to the
repeal
and
said the vote was a sad day in history.
�I hope that when we pass this legislation that we will
understand
that we are doing great damage,� Mr. McCain said. �And we
could
possibly and probably, as the commandant of the Marine Corps
said,
and
as I have been told by literally thousands of members of the
military,
harm the battle effectiveness vital to the survival of our
young
men
and women in the military.�
He and others opposed to lifting the ban said the change could
harm
the unit cohesion that is essential to effective military
operations,
particularly in combat, and deter some Americans from enlisting
or
pursuing a career in the military. They noted that despite
support
for
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