Lil' TommyTomTom, No, I haven't categorized all Muslims as violent extremists. Just the opposite is true. No, I haven't categorized all Gays as flamboyant, again, just the opposite is true. No, I have not categorized all Democrats as Marxists, again, just the opposite is true, (I have said that the Marxists and socialists have in fact infiltrated the Democratic Party, and it is broken beyond repair);
I have said that President Obama is a socialist, and I personally believe that he is a Marxist. This is true, and cannot be disputed. You have yet to show what it is that you disagree with, from the Communist Party USA. You just demonstrated that you haven't read my posts, or anyone else's. You are a Moonbat, and this is indisputable. On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > Keith- > > Here are just a few eamples of the hate, lies and smear you have > demonstrated in these groups. > > You categorize all Muslims as violent extremists, which they are not. > You categorize all gays as flamboyant exhibitionists, which they are not. > You categorize all Democrats as Marxists, which they are not. > You call the President a "Marxist", which he is not. > You oppose DADT Repeal, Civil Marriage Equality, UAFA, and Civil > Rights equality for gays, ENDA, repeal of DOMA, etc. calling them > "special rights.", demonstrating your misguided homophobia again and > again. > There is diversity in every group, and lumping a whole group together > due to your prejudice against a few has negative consequences. > > It is you who exhibit hatred, Islamophobia, homophobia, tunnel vision, > prejudice, and animus. > And no, Democrats are not Marxists, Socialists, or Communists as you > state over and over again. > > Conservatives will not fix anything, they will simply return to the > failed Bush policies that caused this mess, and they have no > constructive plan other than grabbing power back and blocking the > President at every turn. > > You show your hate and animus, Keith. You are your own enemy. Your > naive negativity is apalling. You are as bad as Rove, Rumsfeld and > Bush and Beck. > > How you can cheer on the crazed and small-minded right wing extremists > is a puzzlement to me. > > On 12/19/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > Tom, > > > > As we have established, you cannot point to any example of where I have > > demonsrated any hateful lie or smear. We all sit here, atwitter with > > excitement and anticipation, for you to point to any post where I have > done > > so. > > > > On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> No, you stop your hate smears and lies, Little Keithie. > >> > >> On 12/19/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Stop the hate, smear and lies Lil Tommy!! > >> > > >> > <Grin>!! > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 11:27 PM, GregfromBoston > >> > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> > > >> >> Like we told you a long time ago. Bring it up by itself and it will > >> >> pass > >> >> ------------------------- > >> >> > >> >> Yes we did. > >> >> > >> >> Ready to move on Tom, or would you like a list of democrats who voted > >> >> against extending UI benefits, using your criteria? > >> >> > >> >> On Dec 18, 11:20 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > You really are a dipsh*t. We told you long ago bring it up by > >> >> > itself > >> >> > and it will pass. They finally did and it passed. Doesn't > matter > >> >> > what else you say, that is what happened. Now to see that the > rest > >> of > >> >> > these bills continue getting voted down. None of them are worth > >> >> > passing. > >> >> > > >> >> > On 12/18/2010 10:02 PM, Tommy News wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > Wrong again. > >> >> > > What I saw was that 31 Republican Senators voted against DADT > >> >> > > repeal > >> >> > > based upon their stand alone misguided homophobia which has now > >> >> > > been > >> >> > > plainly exposed. We must now campaign to vote all 31 of them out > of > >> >> > > office to get ENDA, UAFA, and AEB passed, and DOMA repealed. > 2012, > >> >> > > Bring it on. > >> >> > > >> >> > > On 12/18/10, dick thompson<[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> Like we told you a long time ago. Bring it up by itself and it > >> will > >> >> > >> pass. Instead you kept trying to blame the votes against the > >> Omnibus > >> >> > >> earmark bill on the DADT alone. Someday you might learn > >> >> > >> something > >> >> but > >> >> > >> I kinda doubt it. Now maybe you will accept that some of the > >> votes > >> >> > >> against the Omnibus krep bill were against something other than > >> DADT. > >> >> > >> Although I doubt that too. You are far too wedded to blaming > >> >> > >> anything > >> >> > >> that goes against what you want as being homophobic alone. > >> Obviously > >> >> > >> that is not so. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> On 12/18/2010 09:43 PM, Tommy News wrote: > >> >> > >>> Victory! Senate Repeals �Don�t Ask, Don�t Tell�, > Despite > >> 31 > >> >> Republican > >> >> > >>> No Votes and John McCain's Fillibuster Attempt. This is a long > >> >> overdue > >> >> > >>> victory for Civil Rights equality. Repeal of DOMA and Passige > of > >> >> > >>> ENDA > >> >> > >>> and UAFA, and introduction of The American Equality Bill for > >> >> > >>> Civil > >> >> > >>> Rights are next. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> Senate Repeals �Don�t Ask, Don�t Tell� > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> Drew Angerer/The New York Times > >> >> > >>> Senator Joseph I. Lieberman gave the thumbs up as Majority > Leader > >> >> > >>> Harry Reid spoke at a press conference after the �don�t > ask, > >> >> don�t > >> >> > >>> tell� vote. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> By CARL HULSE > >> >> > >>> nk WASHINGTON � The Senate on Saturday voted to strike down > the > >> >> > >>> ban > >> >> on > >> >> > >>> gay men and lesbians serving openly in the military, bringing > to > >> >> > >>> a > >> >> > >>> close a 17-year struggle over a policy that forced thousands of > >> >> > >>> Americans from the ranks and caused others to keep secret their > >> >> sexual > >> >> > >>> orientation. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> Clockwise from left, Senators Mark Udall, Joseph I. Lieberman, > >> Susan > >> >> > >>> Collins and Kirsten Gillibrand after a news conference on the > >> repeal > >> >> > >>> of �don�t ask, don�t tell.� > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> By a vote of 65 to 31, with eight Republicans joining > Democrats, > >> the > >> >> > >>> Senate approved and sent to President Obama a repeal of the > >> >> > >>> Clinton-era law, known as �don�t ask, don�t tell,� a > >> policy > >> >> critics > >> >> > >>> said amounted to government-sanctioned discrimination that > >> >> > >>> treated > >> >> > >>> gay, lesbian and bisexual troops as second-class citizens. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> Mr. Obama hailed the action, which fulfills his pledge to > reverse > >> >> > >>> the > >> >> > >>> ban, and said it was �time to close this chapter in our > >> >> > >>> history.� > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> �As commander in chief, I am also absolutely convinced that > >> making > >> >> > >>> this change will only underscore the professionalism of our > >> >> > >>> troops > >> >> > >>> as > >> >> > >>> the best-led and best-trained fighting force the world has ever > >> >> > >>> known,� he said in a statement after the Senate, on a > >> preliminary > >> >> > >>> 63-to-33 vote, beat back Republican efforts to block final > action > >> on > >> >> > >>> the repeal bill. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> The vote marked a historic moment that some equated with the > end > >> of > >> >> > >>> racial segregation in the military. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> It followed an exhaustive Pentagon review that determined the > >> policy > >> >> > >>> could be changed with only isolated disruptions to unit > cohesion > >> and > >> >> > >>> retention, though members of combat units and the Marine Corps > >> >> > >>> expressed greater reservations about the shift. Congressional > >> action > >> >> > >>> was backed by Pentagon officials as a better alternative to a > >> >> > >>> court-ordered end. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> Supporters of the repeal said it was long past time to abolish > >> what > >> >> > >>> they saw as an ill-advised practice that cost valuable > personnel > >> and > >> >> > >>> forced troops to lie to serve their country. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> �We righted a wrong,� said Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, the > >> >> > >>> independent from Connecticut and a leader of the effort to end > >> >> > >>> the > >> >> > >>> ban. �Today we�ve done justice.� > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> Before voting on the repeal, the Senate blocked a bill that > would > >> >> have > >> >> > >>> created a path to citizenship for certain illegal immigrants > who > >> >> > >>> came > >> >> > >>> to the United States at a young age, completed two years of > >> college > >> >> or > >> >> > >>> military service and met other requirements including passing a > >> >> > >>> criminal background check. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> The 55-to-41 vote in favor of the citizenship bill was five > votes > >> >> > >>> short of the number needed to clear the way for final passage > of > >> >> > >>> what > >> >> > >>> is known as the Dream Act. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> The outcome effectively kills it for this year, and its fate > >> beyond > >> >> > >>> that is uncertain since Republicans who will assume control of > >> >> > >>> the > >> >> > >>> House in January oppose the measure and are unlikely to bring > it > >> to > >> >> > >>> a > >> >> > >>> vote. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> The Senate then moved on to the military legislation, engaging > in > >> an > >> >> > >>> emotional back and forth over the merits of the measure as > >> advocates > >> >> > >>> for repeal watched from galleries crowded with people > interested > >> in > >> >> > >>> the fate of both the military and immigration measures. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> �I don�t care who you love,� Senator Ron Wyden, Democrat > of > >> >> Oregon, > >> >> > >>> said as the debate opened. �If you love this country enough > to > >> >> > >>> risk > >> >> > >>> your life for it, you shouldn�t have to hide who you are.� > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> Mr. Wyden showed up for the Senate vote despite saying earlier > >> that > >> >> he > >> >> > >>> would be unable to do so because he would be undergoing final > >> tests > >> >> > >>> before his scheduled surgery for prostate cancer on Monday. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> The vote came in the final days of the 111th Congress as > >> >> > >>> Democrats > >> >> > >>> sought to force through a final few priorities before they turn > >> over > >> >> > >>> control of the House of Representatives to the Republicans in > >> >> > >>> January > >> >> > >>> and see their clout in the Senate diminished. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> It represented a significant victory for the White House, > >> >> > >>> Congressional advocates of lifting the ban and activists who > have > >> >> > >>> pushed for years to end the Pentagon policy created in 1993 > under > >> >> > >>> the > >> >> > >>> Clinton administration as a compromise effort to end the > practice > >> of > >> >> > >>> barring gay men and lesbians entirely from military service. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> Saying it represented an emotional moment for members of the > gay > >> >> > >>> community nationwide, advocates who supported repeal of > >> >> > >>> �don�t > >> >> ask, > >> >> > >>> don�t tell� exchanged hugs outside the Senate chamber after > >> the > >> >> vote. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> �Today�s vote means gay and lesbian service members posted > >> >> > >>> all > >> >> around > >> >> > >>> the world can stand taller knowing that �don�t ask, don�t > >> >> tell� will > >> >> > >>> soon be coming to an end,� said Aubrey Sarvis, an Army > veteran > >> and > >> >> > >>> executive director for Servicemembers Legal Defense Network. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona and his party�s > >> >> > >>> presidential candidate in 2008, led the opposition to the > repeal > >> and > >> >> > >>> said the vote was a sad day in history. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> �I hope that when we pass this legislation that we will > >> understand > >> >> > >>> that we are doing great damage,� Mr. McCain said. �And we > >> could > >> >> > >>> possibly and probably, as the commandant of the Marine Corps > >> >> > >>> said, > >> >> and > >> >> > >>> as I have been told by literally thousands of members of the > >> >> military, > >> >> > >>> harm the battle effectiveness vital to the survival of our > young > >> men > >> >> > >>> and women in the military.� > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> He and others opposed to lifting the ban said the change could > >> harm > >> >> > >>> the unit cohesion that is essential to effective military > >> >> > >>> operations, > >> >> > >>> particularly in combat, and deter some Americans from enlisting > >> >> > >>> or > >> >> > >>> pursuing a career in the military. They noted that despite > >> >> > >>> support > >> >> for > >> >> > >>> repealing the ban from Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and > Adm. > >> >> Mike > >> >> > >>> Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, other military > >> >> > >>> commanders have warned that changing the practice would prove > >> >> > >>> disruptive. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> �This isn�t broke,� Senator James M. Inhofe, Republican > of > >> >> Oklahoma, > >> >> > >>> said about the policy. �It is working very well.� > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> Other Republicans said that while the policy might need to be > >> >> > >>> changed > >> >> > >>> at some point, Congress should not do so when American troops > are > >> >> > >>> fighting overseas. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> Only a week ago, the effort to repeal the �don�t ask, > don�t > >> >> tell� > >> >> > >>> policy seemed to be dead and in danger of fading for at least > two > >> >> > >>> years with Republicans about to take control of the House. The > >> >> > >>> provision eliminating the ban was initially included in a > broader > >> >> > >>> Pentagon policy bill, and Republican backers of repeal had > >> >> > >>> refused > >> >> > >>> to > >> >> > >>> join in cutting off a filibuster against the underlying bill > >> because > >> >> > >>> of objections over limits on debate of the measure. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> In a last-ditch effort, Mr. Lieberman and Senator Susan Collins > >> >> > >>> of > >> >> > >>> Maine, a key Republican opponent of the ban, encouraged > >> >> > >>> Democratic > >> >> > >>> Congressional leaders to instead pursue a vote on simply > >> >> > >>> repealing > >> >> it. > >> >> > >>> The House passed the measure earlier in the week. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> The repeal will not take effect for at least 60 days, and > >> >> > >>> probably > >> >> > >>> longer, while some other procedural steps are taken. In > addition, > >> >> > >>> the > >> >> > >>> bill requires the defense secretary to determine that policies > >> >> > >>> are > >> >> > >>> in > >> >> > >>> place to carry out the repeal �consistent with military > >> standards > >> >> for > >> >> > >>> readiness, effectiveness, unit cohesion, and recruiting and > >> >> > >>> retention.� > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> Multimedia > >> >> > >>> Interactive Graphic > >> >> > >>> How the Senate Voted > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> Timeline > >> >> > >>> Congressional Action on "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> Blogs > >> >> > >>> The Caucus > >> >> > >>> The latest on President Obama, the new Congress and other news > >> from > >> >> > >>> Washington and around the nation. Join the discussion. > >> >> > > >> >> > >>> FiveThirtyEight: Nate Silver's Political Calculus > >> >> > >>> More Politics News > >> >> > >>> �It is going to take some time,� Ms. Collins said. �It is > >> not > >> >> going to > >> >> > > >> >> > ... > >> >> > > >> >> > read more »- Hide quoted text - > >> >> > > >> >> > - Show quoted text - > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >> >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > >> >> > >> >> * Visit our other community at > >> >> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ <http://www.politicalforum.com/> < > http://www.politicalforum.com/>< > >> http://www.politicalforum.com/> > >> >> * It's active and moderated. 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